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Which Wrist pins?

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I have unfortunately lost a wrist pin for my Venolia pistons in my small block Chrysler. Because of this I have decided to replace the entire set. The pins that I have currently are 0.927" x 2.850" x 0.090" wall. The I have changed the stroke since the engine was last run (Increased from 3.6"-4.0"), and thus brought the compression up by just under 2 points, it's a tad under 13:1 now. The engine was a pump gas engine, but will now be run on methanol, or at worse, a race gas.
I can get an exact set from Childs&Albert to replace them, but have been thinking about going with a thicker walled taper wall pin instead. Any thoughts on the subject?
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Those are pretty light pins, about 86 gms as you described them. Is the rest of the system light weight? Piston wt = ?

The rotating assembly has not been balanced yet, I assume.

How fast will you turn it? How much HP do you plan to make?

Is it an endurance engine, or a 10 sec. drag engine?

NA or nitrous? How much?

If you bought the pins with the pistons for the stroker, the pins should have been spec'd for the engine's use.
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Re: Which Wrist pins?

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la360 wrote:I have unfortunately lost a wrist pin for my Venolia pistons in my small block Chrysler. Because of this I have decided to replace the entire set. The pins that I have currently are 0.927" x 2.850" x 0.090" wall. The I have changed the stroke since the engine was last run (Increased from 3.6"-4.0"), and thus brought the compression up by just under 2 points, it's a tad under 13:1 now. The engine was a pump gas engine, but will now be run on methanol, or at worse, a race gas.
I can get an exact set from Childs&Albert to replace them, but have been thinking about going with a thicker walled taper wall pin instead. Any thoughts on the subject?
Thanks
AL...
I would go much thicker especially if you already ate a wrist pin. Like Oldsstroker said look at what you have and look at weight and rpm and intended usage and if you aren't building a comp eliminator engine and maybe even then just use a pin you KNOW will stand up to what you are dealing it. Even with tool steel a .090 wall pin is pretty weak. You can probably go up to a .120 wall tool steel or a regular .150 wall pin and solve a lot of your problems for cheap. Is there a lot of unsupported pin hanging out there as in a wide pin boss spacing and a narrow top end width of the rod? Then it will be even worse with a thin wall pin plus you will have to run a lot of clearance to keep stuff from contacting when the piston and pin are flexing. I would go up on the wall thickness no matter what.
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The piston weighs 400 grams, it's a gas ported Venolia flat top piston. It was running a BME Alluminium rod, which are being replaced with a shorter MGP or GRP rod, so the rotating assembly is reasonably light.

The small end on the current rods are quite wide, and I will most likefully have the new rods made in the same manner.

I actually misplaced one of the wrist pins, I am not replacing them because they were damaged. They actually measure up quite well, only showing a couple of tenths of wear from what I recall. It has been a little while since I miced them.

As for the rest of the engine, It was a 365 cube engine, and I will be increasing the stroke to provide 406 cubes. I would like to keep the revs under 7000-7200 rpm.

I was thinking about going to a thicker walled pin, as I would most likefully end up with a lighter rod, the BME rods the engine had when it was a 365 cuber weighed over 600 grams, it was one of their 396 forgings.

Should I go taper wall, or straight wall? It will basically be a normally aspirated Methanol engine, revs will be just over the 7000 range, if that high at all.

I hope I answered everything

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AL - check your PMs.

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Thanks Roger
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Post by la360 »

What is 4340 like as a material for wrist pins??? Would a 4340 0.180" taperwall pin do the job in my combination???
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