462 double hump hp capability
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462 double hump hp capability
hi all, im ooking to build a high winding 302 chevy. i just bought a motor, that i was told was a 327 but its a 283. im going to use that crank and put it in a 327 block i will be purchasing. i am going to have big domes (running alcohol) and forged rods. i will be using a solid roller cam. i am using gm 462 2.02 1.60 double hump heads that a friend of mine has. my question is, how much hp can this setup produce without touching the heads.
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Re: 462 double hump hp capability
#1 question is what is high winding?jeepracer wrote:hi all, im ooking to build a high winding 302 chevy. i just bought a motor, that i was told was a 327 but its a 283. im going to use that crank and put it in a 327 block i will be purchasing. i am going to have big domes (running alcohol) and forged rods. i will be using a solid roller cam. i am using gm 462 2.02 1.60 double hump heads that a friend of mine has. my question is, how much hp can this setup produce without touching the heads.
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Re: 462 double hump hp capability
More or less born and raised on those combos. It's a decent street app if the car is light enough.
Heads? Get some aftermarket and sell the 462 to someone doing a restore.
Heads? Get some aftermarket and sell the 462 to someone doing a restore.
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The reason I ask is because the 283 we have used to leave at 10,000. Are you ready to spin that?jeepracer wrote:high revving and as much as it needs to.
The 377 I run spins 9000 and is not a street motor at all.
Only wondering what you want to rev it to.
Or you can be the save the motor crowd and shift at 6500??????????
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af2 wrote:The reason I ask is because the 283 we have used to leave at 10,000. Are you ready to spin that?jeepracer wrote:high revving and as much as it needs to.
The 377 I run spins 9000 and is not a street motor at all.
Only wondering what you want to rev it to.
Or you can be the save the motor crowd and shift at 6500??????????
The 283 had and has Mondello 462 heads. They are small compared to today's heads with the offset Intake rockers.
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my theory is, they had a small stroke for a reason...to spin them high. i was looking at more of an 8500-9000 redline. id like to base it mainly off the scca 302's. i know they used those heads but what they did to them, i dont know.jeepracer wrote:high revving and as much as it needs to.
The reason I ask is because the 283 we have used to leave at 10,000. Are you ready to spin that?
was the 283 ever dyno'd? sounds sweet
Also, are those Mondello 462 heads oem heads that have been worked or are they aftermarket?
this motor will never be a streetable motor, strictly racing so the low rpms dont do anything for me!
Re: 462 double hump hp capability
They did have a reason for the small stroke, scca rules and a 305 cid limit.They used the 4 inch bore because it allowed better breathing than the 283 bore thus the 3 inch stroke 283 crank was used to squeak in under the cid limit.
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Mondello = oem heads reworked by Joe Mondello
[quote="jeepracer"
....... so the low rpms dont do anything for me![/quote]
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Repeat: aftermarket heads.
[quote="jeepracer"
....... so the low rpms dont do anything for me![/quote]
Be careful what you wish for. The term budget is about to go out the window.
Repeat: aftermarket heads.
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Re: 462 double hump hp capability
you mean he can't just use 462 heads with Z28 springs, a big cam and rev it to 10K?Dave Koehler wrote:Mondello = oem heads reworked by Joe Mondello
Be careful what you wish for. The term budget is about to go out the window.jeepracer wrote: ....... so the low rpms dont do anything for me!
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OnceKeith Morganstein wrote:you mean he can't just use 462 heads with Z28 springs, a big cam and rev it to 10K?Dave Koehler wrote:Mondello = oem heads reworked by Joe Mondello
Be careful what you wish for. The term budget is about to go out the window.jeepracer wrote: ....... so the low rpms dont do anything for me!
Repeat: aftermarket heads.
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Dave Koehler wrote:you mean he can't just use 462 heads with Z28 springs, a big cam and rev it to 10K?
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Re: 462 double hump hp capability
all i simply asked was what kind of hp you think it would make.
i cant change the rules that state you must use oem heads. so that is what i have to work with.
when did i say i was going to rev it to 10k?you mean he can't just use 462 heads with Z28 springs, a big cam and rev it to 10K?
i cant change the rules that state you must use oem heads. so that is what i have to work with.
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Re: 462 double hump hp capability
You can make power with that head. At one time that was the latest and greatest and it was all we had. If you had a set of ported double humps, you were the man.
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Re: 462 double hump hp capability
Well, you didn't state any of that stuff. You made yourself sound like any other 1000 hp, 40mpg street wannabe.
What it might make, maybe, is somewhat meaningless at this point.
Start over.
vehicle, class, rules, goals etc. etc.
What it might make, maybe, is somewhat meaningless at this point.
Start over.
vehicle, class, rules, goals etc. etc.
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