Keeping aluminum from sticking to carbide burrs
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Re: Keeping aluminum from sticking to carbide burrs
I use plain cheap bar soap, some other stuff may work better but I don't port enough. Leave the soap in the package, just burn thru it on the side you use. I also use a stock sbc crank timing gear to run the burr on to unload it up if I don't soap it enough, between the teeth works well. My alum burrs are old and I prob need some new ones but I'm not doing it for a living and as long as they cut.
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Re: Keeping aluminum from sticking to carbide burrs
I use Mondello Posi Flow 2000 Aluminum. If I'm out of that I use WD 40 but I like the Mondello oil best. I have also tried Kool Mist. It works good but makes a wet mess in the porting bench area, which is already a wet mess! I have been wanting to build a porting bench like the one that forum member "Hotz" built, but I am always too busy to take the time to do it.
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Any number of cutting/sawing waxes work well. They are not cheap, but last a long time and are made specifically for cutting use. This is the one I use, it is useful when cutting aluminum plate too. I bet it could be found for less.
http://www.grainger.com/product/LPS-Edge-Lube-4KK73
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Re: Keeping aluminum from sticking to carbide burrs
That is what I do. I just spray on some WD40 every now and then.engineguyBill wrote:WD40 will help keep the burrs clean.
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Re: Keeping aluminum from sticking to carbide burrs
Use kerosene (parafin as we call it) or maybe while spirit.BRauscher wrote:Anybody know of any tricks or a product that will keep aluminum from loading up on my carbide burrs when porting? I am using the burrs for aluminum.
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Re: Keeping aluminum from sticking to carbide burrs
Just be aware that some of the products designed for hand tapping can give off dangerous fumes when used with high speed tools. We expose ourselves to enough stuff already that may bite us twenty years from now without adding more. Be safe and use something designed for the job, and manage the smoke and fumes.
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Re: Keeping aluminum from sticking to carbide burrs
X 1000oldjohnno wrote:Just be aware that some of the products designed for hand tapping can give off dangerous fumes when used with high speed tools. We expose ourselves to enough stuff already that may bite us twenty years from now without adding more. Be safe and use something designed for the job, and manage the smoke and fumes.
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Re: Keeping aluminum from sticking to carbide burrs
I think I tried about everything from wax, to Mondello oil to WD 40. Didn't like the last two because of the fumes. For the last 10 years I've been using regular engine oil with a wire brush. Works good and not too messy. What material the oil doesn't prevent from sticking gets taken out with the wire brush.
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Re: Keeping aluminum from sticking to carbide burrs
I like to use no stick cooking spray like the Pam mentioned earlier. It works good and it doesn't make a mess.
Re: Keeping aluminum from sticking to carbide burrs
x3 on tap magic. Made for cutting and doesnt seem to load up.
If youre a WD or trans fluid etc user try it youll be pleased
If youre a WD or trans fluid etc user try it youll be pleased
Re: Keeping aluminum from sticking to carbide burrs
So Joe, the wax didn't work for you?JoePorting wrote:I think I tried about everything from wax, to Mondello oil to WD 40. Didn't like the last two because of the fumes. For the last 10 years I've been using regular engine oil with a wire brush. Works good and not too messy. What material the oil doesn't prevent from sticking gets taken out with the wire brush.
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Re: Keeping aluminum from sticking to carbide burrs
Yeah, didn't like the wax. Maybe I wasn't using it right, but it seemed really messy. I might have to try the Pam idea.
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I had to go look . Grainger is $28 a 13 oz tube plus shipping. Searching for "lps edge lube" on amazon.com, I found a single tube for $20 with free shipping, and a case of 10 for $150+5 shipping. The active ingredient in cooking sprays like Pam is lecithin, which is also the active ingredient in weld antispatter so one can can do double duty .pcnsd wrote:Any number of cutting/sawing waxes work well. They are not cheap, but last a long time and are made specifically for cutting use. This is the one I use, it is useful when cutting aluminum plate too. I bet it could be found for less.
http://www.grainger.com/product/LPS-Edge-Lube-4KK73
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Re: Keeping aluminum from sticking to carbide burrs
Expanding on this just a little; drawn from the MSDS of one tapping fluid:oldjohnno wrote:Just be aware that some of the products designed for hand tapping can give off dangerous fumes when used with high speed tools. We expose ourselves to enough stuff already that may bite us twenty years from now without adding more. Be safe and use something designed for the job, and manage the smoke and fumes.
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concentrations of hydrogen sulfide vapor above 500 ppm may cause rapid death. Do not rely on
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