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Anyone using the Lucas 30W Break In oil? Application is a SBC, aggressive 'dwell' style lobe cast nitrided flat tappet, tool steel lifters, spring pres. is 220 seat/420 open. Motor will see dyno time for cam break in with light springs, then change to the race springs.

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No but have used Brad Penn breakin oil, i feel its the best out there.
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Lucas stuff will not fail you, that being said, so will GM additive!
Either with light springs for break in should end in smiles!
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Have never used the Lucas but sure it would be fine. I prefer the Amsoil Break In Oil in all my engines.
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break in oils are junk and not needed... pick a good oil stick with it.. look what 30,000 engines are started with... not break in oils. rings seat fine ... I love ls30 gibbs , and Mobil 1 5-30. mix of 10-30 and 20-50 vr1 in turbo cars ...
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BVVC of additives with SN oils
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We have used lucas break in oil in some flat tappet solid lifter circle track motors with good results. They were all below .650 lift.
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hereinmissoula wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:35 am break in oils are junk and not needed... pick a good oil stick with it.. look what 30,000 engines are started with... not break in oils. rings seat fine ... I love ls30 gibbs , and Mobil 1 5-30. mix of 10-30 and 20-50 vr1 in turbo cars ...
You obviously have not run any dwell nose flat tappet cams, with 420# on the nose.
This isn't some stock hydraulic flat tappet cam with 90# on the seat, and 250# at max lift.
A Low Zinc/High deturgent oil would be disaster in this application.
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CamKing wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:49 am
hereinmissoula wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:35 am break in oils are junk and not needed... pick a good oil stick with it.. look what 30,000 engines are started with... not break in oils. rings seat fine ... I love ls30 gibbs , and Mobil 1 5-30. mix of 10-30 and 20-50 vr1 in turbo cars ...
You obviously have not run any dwell nose flat tappet cams, with 420# on the nose.
This isn't some stock hydraulic flat tappet cam with 90# on the seat, and 250# at max lift.
A Low Zinc/High deturgent oil would be disaster in this application.
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CamKing wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:49 am
hereinmissoula wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:35 am break in oils are junk and not needed... pick a good oil stick with it.. look what 30,000 engines are started with... not break in oils. rings seat fine ... I love ls30 gibbs , and Mobil 1 5-30. mix of 10-30 and 20-50 vr1 in turbo cars ...
You obviously have not run any dwell nose flat tappet cams, with 420# on the nose.
This isn't some stock hydraulic flat tappet cam with 90# on the seat, and 250# at max lift.
A Low Zinc/High deturgent oil would be disaster in this application.
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And really when you think about it additives are not fully blended with the base oil till it runs for a while making the additive almost pointless in a fresh engine. Unlike the purpose blended oils for break in.

I know guys will say it works but like Mike mentioned you just have not had a big enough stick combo yet to see why it don't.
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at what point (presumably a spring lb value over the nose) do people normally recommend light running in springs?
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digger wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:57 pm at what point (presumably a spring lb value over the nose) do people normally recommend light running in springs?
I don't recommend breaking in a cam with over 300lbs of spring pressure at Max lift
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Mike what about those break in machines some mfgs run. Do you figure that works?
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tenxal wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:33 am Anyone using the Lucas 30W Break In oil? Application is a SBC, aggressive 'dwell' style lobe cast nitrided flat tappet, tool steel lifters, spring pres. is 220 seat/420 open. Motor will see dyno time for cam break in with light springs, then change to the race springs.

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I have been having awesome results with flat tappets using driven BR oil
Last Cleveland I did had 340lb open and after 40 min break in I pulled the lifters for inspection and they looked like they were brand new
I also notice much less fine metal particles after run in using Driven break oil
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Driven BR30 is what I ended up using...and what I've used in the past. Good stuff, for sure.
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