Don Terrill’s Speed-Talk

RAMM wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:23 am Also after watching this year's Traditional Muscle Class play out at UNOH I gotta say the rules were quite well thought out by Adger. I would emulate these if you want some seriously scienced out entries. J.Rob

RAMM wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:50 am The rules or the Facebook videos? J.Rob

RAMM wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:23 am Also after watching this year's Traditional Muscle Class play out at UNOH I gotta say the rules were quite well thought out by Adger. I would emulate these if you want some seriously scienced out entries. J.Rob

Joe-71 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:27 pm Greg: Some questions that I haven't seen answered are these: To what end is the engine being compared to? Street, Drag Race, Oval Track, Dirt Track, Street Stock, Pure Stock, Super Stock, Stock Eliminator, Road Race, Pro Stock, Naturally Aspirated, Power Adder? Cubic inch limits? Fuel requirements? Highest horsepower, highest torque, or highest average overall? Street headers, race headers, wet sump, dry sump, vacuum pump, just what are the parameters you seek? Is this the latest and greatest parts, or stock parts, or vintage parts? Cost factor limits? Single camshaft, multiple camshafts? Joe-71

Joe-71 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:20 pm Having been involved with EMC for three years, I would like to see the rules stipulate that exotic remaking of a part not be acceptable in direct competition with the cast parts such as cylinder heads. Modifications limited to porting, filling, or raising the floors, but not changing the entire port configuration, or adding plates to extend the head into the chambers. I sincerely respect Jon Kaase, but "one-off" experimental changes should be in a class all to themselves and a category for that type of build. Joe-71

Joe-71 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:20 pm Having been involved with EMC for three years, I would like to see the rules stipulate that exotic remaking of a part not be acceptable in direct competition with the cast parts such as cylinder heads. Modifications limited to porting, filling, or raising the floors, but not changing the entire port configuration, or adding plates to extend the head into the chambers. I sincerely respect Jon Kaase, but "one-off" experimental changes should be in a class all to themselves and a category for that type of build. Joe-71

CamKing wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:16 am

Joe-71 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:20 pm Having been involved with EMC for three years, I would like to see the rules stipulate that exotic remaking of a part not be acceptable in direct competition with the cast parts such as cylinder heads. Modifications limited to porting, filling, or raising the floors, but not changing the entire port configuration, or adding plates to extend the head into the chambers. I sincerely respect Jon Kaase, but "one-off" experimental changes should be in a class all to themselves and a category for that type of build. Joe-71

My comments to Greg were, since these engines are supposed to represent engines that would be built for customers, for street/strip performance, the rules should reflect that. Things like spending $20K on cam development is really not something a street/strip customer is going to pay for, so it shouldn't be part of this competition. I'm sure if someone spent the money to make a manifold that changed runner length as the RPM changed, would have a huge advantage, but it really wouldn't fit the spirit of the competition.