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Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:34 pm
by 202ci EH
Very nice.
Who's piston are you using? assuming its a shelf wiseco/diamond etc?
Not scared to turn the rpm's up with the stock rods? They seem to be fine cylinder pressure wise / compression, but tensile loading from piston speed?
Nice build though, I like the whole less is more
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:07 am
by CGT
202ci EH wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:34 pm
Very nice.
Who's piston are you using? assuming its a shelf wiseco/diamond etc?
Not scared to turn the rpm's up with the stock rods? They seem to be fine cylinder pressure wise / compression, but tensile loading from piston speed?
Nice build though, I like the whole less is more
Yes. It does scare me. But im fine with being a guinea pig on that.
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:33 pm
by CGT
JE assymetrical shelf piston. 10cc dome
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:33 am
by Olds455
CGT wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:44 pm
Well. I agree with keeping things on track. Fortunately I have a killer cylinder head guy looking the heads over for hidden flowz. Hope to valve job them soon.
(Sn lives matter)
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Looking for hidden what? You don't make sense with that nonsense. I can't take you seriously nor anything you say when you act like that.
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:29 pm
by 202ci EH
CGT wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:33 pm
JE assymetrical shelf piston. 10cc dome
Thank's for that, nice looking slug.I had my eyes on the mahle dome pistons with the 1.0 x 1.0 x 2.0 ring pack until I realised they had a moly top ring.
I'm doing a similar build but with some Dart cathedrals, I've got my work cut out for me yet
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:16 am
by FC-Pilot
202ci EH wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:29 pm
CGT wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:33 pm
JE assymetrical shelf piston. 10cc dome
Thank's for that, nice looking slug.I had my eyes on the mahle dome pistons with the 1.0 x 1.0 x 2.0 ring pack until I realised they had a moly top ring.
I'm doing a similar build but with some Dart cathedrals, I've got my work cut out for me yet
Not to derail the thread, but what is the issue with the moly top ring? Looking to discuss the technical reason why? Or are you saying it is a moly, and not a plasma-moly?
Paul
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:05 am
by 202ci EH
No issues with the moly inlay, just that mine will see some nitrous in it's life and I wouldn't feel comfortable.
I like the gas nitride steel top that JE/SRP uses, they seem to last forever.
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:24 am
by CGT
202ci EH wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:05 am
No issues with the moly inlay, just that mine will see some nitrous in it's life and I wouldn't feel comfortable.
I like the gas nitride steel top that JE/SRP uses, they seem to last forever.
Hey 202. What are some of the details if your build?
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:02 pm
by FC-Pilot
202ci EH wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:05 am
No issues with the moly inlay, just that mine will see some nitrous in it's life and I wouldn't feel comfortable.
I like the gas nitride steel top that JE/SRP uses, they seem to last forever.
Thanks for the quick answer. Now, back to our regularly schedule program...
Paul
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:41 am
by 202ci EH
CGT wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:05 am
Hey 202. What are some of the details if your build?
It's a cheapy!
Building it for my street car, trying to keep it basic and keep the $ down.
4.070 x 3.62
LS3 block, std crank. Likely end up with some compstar rods and JE or wiseco Domes
RHS/Dart cathedrals, started life as 225's but I'm about to go through them. Planning to run ls9 ex valves and turn ls3 hollow intakes down to 2.1.
Edel super Vic, Modded with a dominator flange.
4>2>1 header
Will be Hydraulic roller, std rockers with bushings, travel limited ls7 lifters, PSI Beehives, stock oil pump & timing gears with a c5r chain ~ just basic stuff, but the pudding is in the details I guess
If it made 700 I'd be stoked, 650 would make me happy. Rpm's ~ as many as the valvetrain permits
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:15 am
by CGT
202ci EH wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:41 am
CGT wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:05 am
Hey 202. What are some of the details if your build?
It's a cheapy!
Building it for my street car, trying to keep it basic and keep the $ down.
4.070 x 3.62
LS3 block, std crank. Likely end up with some compstar rods and JE or wiseco Domes
RHS/Dart cathedrals, started life as 225's but I'm about to go through them. Planning to run ls9 ex valves and turn ls3 hollow intakes down to 2.1.
Edel super Vic, Modded with a dominator flange.
4>2>1 header
Will be Hydraulic roller, std rockers with bushings, travel limited ls7 lifters, PSI Beehives, stock oil pump & timing gears with a c5r chain ~ just basic stuff, but the pudding is in the details I guess
If it made 700 I'd be stoked, 650 would make me happy. Rpm's ~ as many as the valvetrain permits
That sounds cool.....and familiar. Im doing travel limited stock lifters also. How big are the heads now? Sizes, csa etc? Valvetrain is my biggest worry on mine.
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:52 am
by 3pedals
How much plunger travel are you guys leaving when you shim the lifters?
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:19 pm
by CGT
3pedals wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:52 am
How much plunger travel are you guys leaving when you shim the lifters?
Mine will have about half taken out initially. Leaving
.100 or a little less. I may take more out later but didnt wanna get too crazy while the valvetrain is still non adjustable.
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:30 pm
by 3pedals
CGT wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:19 pm
3pedals wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:52 am
How much plunger travel are you guys leaving when you shim the lifters?
Mine will have about half taken out initially. Leaving
.100 or a little less. I may take more out later but didnt wanna get too crazy while the valvetrain is still non adjustable.
Sounds reasonable,
where do you plan to set the assembled "plunger height"? Right In the middle of your travel?
Re: LS3 Carbed build
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:36 pm
by CGT
3pedals wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:30 pm
CGT wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:19 pm
3pedals wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:52 am
How much plunger travel are you guys leaving when you shim the lifters?
Mine will have about half taken out initially. Leaving
.100 or a little less. I may take more out later but didnt wanna get too crazy while the valvetrain is still non adjustable.
Sounds reasonable,
where do you plan to set the assembled "plunger height"? Right In the middle of your travel?
Most likely. I will probably base that decision on just how consistent one is to another. Im not wanting to buy 5 sets of pushrods. Buy yeah. Ill probably shoot for .050 or deeper to account for growth.