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Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:29 pm
by tcb3274
cjperformance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:23 pm
tcb3274 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:17 pm
Do you think a EPS is ok for my combo, or a RPM Dual Plane?
With those heads and being a street cruiser as you mentioned, i pick the eps. They respond well to a .5" open on the intake then .5" 4 hole on top depending on use. Great intake and cheap!
Craig
Eric port matched the EPS to the 1205 gasket, like he did the Dart Conquest heads. The RPM dual plane I have is not port matched.
You think the even if I have a redline of 6000 to 6500 the EPS will be better?
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:40 pm
by gmrocket
tcb3274 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:19 pm
gmrocket wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:14 pm
JoePorting wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:44 am
I had a 67 Camaro with a similar setup. My favorite upgrade was going to a TKO-500 5 speed with an overdrive fifth gear. Made 70 mph at around 2500 rpm's.
Dang! You nailed it with the 67 Camaro reference
Your previous wild azz guesses without even knowing the cubes, compression, engine architecture, application or anything else was reeeaallyy close though
I don't follow you on what I guessed on?
I'm not surprised
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:43 pm
by tcb3274
gmrocket wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:40 pm
tcb3274 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:19 pm
gmrocket wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:14 pm
Dang! You nailed it with the 67 Camaro reference
Your previous wild azz guesses without even knowing the cubes, compression, engine architecture, application or anything else was reeeaallyy close though
I don't follow you on what I guessed on?
I'm not surprised
Who are you? Your first comment in the thread?
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:52 pm
by cjperformance
tcb3274 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:29 pm
cjperformance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:23 pm
tcb3274 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:17 pm
Do you think a EPS is ok for my combo, or a RPM Dual Plane?
With those heads and being a street cruiser as you mentioned, i pick the eps. They respond well to a .5" open on the intake then .5" 4 hole on top depending on use. Great intake and cheap!
Craig
Eric port matched the EPS to the 1205 gasket, like he did the Dart Conquest heads. The RPM dual plane I have is not port matched.
You think the even if I have a redline of 6000 to 6500 the EPS will be better?
True street and if mine i would run the eps still, yeah im going to use it to 6/6500 but realistically WOT in the stall rpm up to 6K is going to do the most for me on the street and at part throttle cruise the eps is best.
If you are going to port match then use the RPM, i dont want to open an eps out to 1205, the rpm has a little more runner csa and port opening area so going to 1205 is not as big a deal.
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:01 pm
by tcb3274
cjperformance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:52 pm
tcb3274 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:29 pm
cjperformance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:23 pm
With those heads and being a street cruiser as you mentioned, i pick the eps. They respond well to a .5" open on the intake then .5" 4 hole on top depending on use. Great intake and cheap!
Craig
Eric port matched the EPS to the 1205 gasket, like he did the Dart Conquest heads. The RPM dual plane I have is not port matched.
You think the even if I have a redline of 6000 to 6500 the EPS will be better?
True street and if mine i would run the eps still, yeah im going to use it to 6/6500 but realistically WOT in the stall rpm up to 6K is going to do the most for me on the street and at part throttle cruise the eps is best.
If you are going to port match then use the RPM, i dont want to open an eps out to 1205, the rpm has a little more runner csa and port opening area so going to 1205 is not as big a deal.
I don't have a auto. I have a 4 speed.
I follow on the EPS and 1205.
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:08 pm
by cjperformance
^^^ my apology! I was thinking auto !!
What is your driving style? Total rev head with something
To prove or mild mannered cruiser who likes to stomp the tyres in the right situation?
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:10 pm
by cjperformance
P.s. if you already own an RPM just use it. The differences are hair splitting
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:13 pm
by tcb3274
cjperformance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:08 pm
^^^ my apology! I was thinking auto !!
What is your driving style? Total rev head with something
To prove or mild mannered cruiser who likes to stomp the tyres in the right situation?
Its not my car. Its my Dads. He does not hardly spin the tires in the car. Just the occasional blast up through the gears to like 5500 to 6000. Probably not even using all the cam or heads.
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:13 pm
by tcb3274
cjperformance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:10 pm
P.s. if you already own an RPM just use it. The differences are hair splitting
I can swap them out and see which one he likes better.
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:16 pm
by cjperformance
tcb3274 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:13 pm
cjperformance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:08 pm
^^^ my apology! I was thinking auto !!
What is your driving style? Total rev head with something
To prove or mild mannered cruiser who likes to stomp the tyres in the right situation?
Its not my car. Its my Dads. He does not hardly spin the tires in the car. Just the occasional blast up through the gears to like 5500 to 6000. Probably not even using all the cam or heads.
Go the eps, if you have room try a few different spacer combos.
Once you have it where it works best then try your RPM
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:18 pm
by tcb3274
cjperformance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:16 pm
tcb3274 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:13 pm
cjperformance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:08 pm
^^^ my apology! I was thinking auto !!
What is your driving style? Total rev head with something
To prove or mild mannered cruiser who likes to stomp the tyres in the right situation?
Its not my car. Its my Dads. He does not hardly spin the tires in the car. Just the occasional blast up through the gears to like 5500 to 6000. Probably not even using all the cam or heads.
Go the eps, if you have room try a few different spacer combos.
Once you have it where it works best then try your RPM
Ok. Sure well. I have a variety of spacers from 1/2" to 1".
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:23 pm
by cjperformance
Good stuff, allways good fun experimenting and a great excuse to smoke your Dads tyres !!
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:25 pm
by tcb3274
cjperformance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:23 pm
Good stuff, allways good fun experimenting and a great excuse to smoke your Dads tyres !!
LOL!! I guess so.
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:33 pm
by David Vizard
cjperformance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:38 pm
Op / DV, What are ambient condition, is it practical to keep it at 170F all year /driving season?
What is pump fuel consistency like in the area?
DV, those. 006" & o/lap figures suggest an idle that will rumble the china when the OP cruises thru the old folks home driveway! Im interested to see the .050 & .100 numbers.
the idle quality is defined by the vacuum so - with the vacuum down to some 14 inches yes it will rumble but not that much.
• Duration @ 0.006 289/283
• Duration @ 0.050 237/231
DV
Re: How much lift for these flow numbers
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:41 pm
by cjperformance
David Vizard wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:33 pm
cjperformance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:38 pm
Op / DV, What are ambient condition, is it practical to keep it at 170F all year /driving season?
What is pump fuel consistency like in the area?
DV, those. 006" & o/lap figures suggest an idle that will rumble the china when the OP cruises thru the old folks home driveway! Im interested to see the .050 & .100 numbers.
the idle quality is defined by the vacuum so - with the vacuum down to some 14 inches yes it will rumble but not that much.
• Duration @ 0.006 289/283
• Duration @ 0.050 237/231
DV
Different figs to cam mentioned earlier or is this the basics on the most agressive of the available profiles?
Edit , typo!