Lol you and i must live it completely different environments. If A silverado 1500 isnt a practical vehicle then i dont know what to saypeejay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:44 pmTrucks are way more impractical as daily drivers unless you live out where there is no traffic.
The roads in my neighborhood are narrower than a Raptor is wide. Basically you have to be a self entitled d-bag to want to drive one around here, not caring how much you are inconveniencing everyone else. And I don't even live in New England where things tend to be REALLY packed thanks to cities having been around since the 1700s.
Winter tires make C5s completely livable in the winter, not sure about the newer ones yet.
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But it's the 30+ yr old owners you see in every video on the internet, using them for what they're intended for and not doing 15 under the speed limit everywhere they go lol. So younger people own them, too. But I'm guessing it more because of the performance you can get from them and less about the classic round tails and hideaway headlamps. Seems to me that GM is attempting to change that and is actually trying to attract younger buyers that are interested in more than just how fast it is.
But don't both numbers usually follow each other as in both tq and hp are usually both lower or higher when using a another gear? And not one go up and one go down?
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Everybody doesn't drive a raptor. Maybe that truck specifically isn't a practical dd but you can't make a generalized statement that trucks in general aren't just because that one isn't. My truck is perfect as a dd and has been for the last 15 years and I live in an urban area of around 400k people. My truck also isn't 9.5 ft wide like a Raptor, either. Neither are most trucks on the road today, I'd bet.peejay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:44 pmTrucks are way more impractical as daily drivers unless you live out where there is no traffic.
The roads in my neighborhood are narrower than a Raptor is wide. Basically you have to be a self entitled d-bag to want to drive one around here, not caring how much you are inconveniencing everyone else. And I don't even live in New England where things tend to be REALLY packed thanks to cities having been around since the 1700s.
Winter tires make C5s completely livable in the winter, not sure about the newer ones yet.
People drive Corvettes around here all year round on summer tires most of the time. Living south of the Mason Dixon has its benefits.
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He likely lives in a densely populated city....? Here in western rural NY a Vette ,even with winter tires has far too little ground clearance for the snowy back roads here..Orr89rocz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:00 pmLol you and i must live it completely different environments. If A silverado 1500 isnt a practical vehicle then i dont know what to saypeejay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:44 pmTrucks are way more impractical as daily drivers unless you live out where there is no traffic.
The roads in my neighborhood are narrower than a Raptor is wide. Basically you have to be a self entitled d-bag to want to drive one around here, not caring how much you are inconveniencing everyone else. And I don't even live in New England where things tend to be REALLY packed thanks to cities having been around since the 1700s.
Winter tires make C5s completely livable in the winter, not sure about the newer ones yet.
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The 1/4 mile MPH and known car+ driver weight will tell the tale of how much rwhp it is really making.
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With vette vs. Dually you will save enough money in fuel cost you can stay home on snowdays.
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as an owner of 11 new corvettes,last one was a 2008 and if I was not 85 years old I would have #12 on order. my reaction times now are not good enought for that quick a car. I was still doing track days with the 2008 but now I just drive my 2018 silverado. back in the day we did drive them in the snow as the mrs drove one to work every day
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Not everyone gets paid days off.....Duallys are used by horse and beef cow people around here...Vette is not so useful for pulling 7 tons of trailer...And a full size non dually truck is only about 4 inches wider than a Vette...Seriously, you can't compare the two...
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I wonder if that is the case?midnightbluS10 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:18 amI'm gonna take a guess that you're at least 50 years old?
You realize if GM didn't change the Corvette, there would be no customer base once all of the older guys and current customers die, right? Young people don't like "old guy Corvettes" so they needed to update it. And they did. It's pretty obvious to me they're trying pretty hard to attract younger buyers so they they don't run out of customers in the next 2 decades because they're still selling the same cars to 60/70/80 yr old guys.
Continuing to build rwd Corvettes with round taillights and hideaway headlights spells a sure death for the Corvette brand.
Harley Davidson has lost their ass trying to compete with Honda only to now offer really expensive Honda's... I am 53 and all my 10 year younger friends own old school Harley's because they wanted a Harley, not a Honda, something gets it's reputation for what it is and when you change that then it's not what it was and you have to find a new customer for the new Whatever. Look at the failed attempt to recreate the GTO vs the increased sales with the revamped old style Mustang and Dodge Challenger... and to some extent GM's retro space age Camaro.
I am not saying they have lost their way with the Vette, I always wanted a 70's stingray and then after actually driving a Vette I would not own one unless it was given to me. The new ones are probably much better but considering everything else I could own for the price that would never be a thought.
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Re: C8 Corvette dynos high???
I wish the dyno sheets had the correction factor on them to understand the temp/air pressure during testing.
Anyways, when they converted wheel HP to crank HP, they used the typical 15% factor for rear wheel drive.
BUT, since the Vette is mid-engine, I assume it doesn't have a typical driveshaft (I assume)... So I would think it would have less inertia and frictional losses. Maybe this results in a higher reported power?
Plus the J1349 standard states that the power is measured at steady state and they measured a wide open throttle roll on.
Anyways, when they converted wheel HP to crank HP, they used the typical 15% factor for rear wheel drive.
BUT, since the Vette is mid-engine, I assume it doesn't have a typical driveshaft (I assume)... So I would think it would have less inertia and frictional losses. Maybe this results in a higher reported power?
Plus the J1349 standard states that the power is measured at steady state and they measured a wide open throttle roll on.
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GM has claimed less than 15% frictional loss, did not know the J1349 standard. That’s an obvious flaw in the dyno testing. I’m confused though why the Ram was fairly close?-M54- wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:56 pm I wish the dyno sheets had the correction factor on them to understand the temp/air pressure during testing.
Anyways, when they converted wheel HP to crank HP, they used the typical 15% factor for rear wheel drive.
BUT, since the Vette is mid-engine, I assume it doesn't have a typical driveshaft (I assume)... So I would think it would have less inertia and frictional losses. Maybe this results in a higher reported power?
Plus the J1349 standard states that the power is measured at steady state and they measured a wide open throttle roll on.
Thank you for the insight exactly what I was looking for.