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The engine is a S.B.C. . It will be N/A with no power adders. The engine block is Dart Iron Eagle 4.400" B.C.'s. Dart's 9 deg. alum. heads held down with the best studs available. Static compression will be between 14 to 14.5 . Estimated cranking compression 220-240 psi . Estimated H.P. 800 + .
Was planning on a 4.185" bore which would give .215" between cylinders. I am now considering a 4.200" bore which would reduce the dimension to .200". Without getting into all kinds of discussion on why not to start out with that big of a bore, i would appreciate opinions on (how much is not enough). BTW will be using what ever (most likely) Cometic recommends for the application. Thanks in advance for any responses Mark H., Hoping all Speedtalkers have a great 2020!! :)
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Following right along!

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swampbuggy wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:36 pm The engine is a S.B.C. . It will be N/A with no power adders. The engine block is Dart Iron Eagle 4.400" B.C.'s. Dart's 9 deg. alum. heads held down with the best studs available. Static compression will be between 14 to 14.5 . Estimated cranking compression 220-240 psi . Estimated H.P. 800 + .
Was planning on a 4.185" bore which would give .215" between cylinders. I am now considering a 4.200" bore which would reduce the dimension to .200". Without getting into all kinds of discussion on why not to start out with that big of a bore, i would appreciate opinions on (how much is not enough). BTW will be using what ever (most likely) Cometic recommends for the application. Thanks in advance for any responses Mark H., Hoping all Speedtalkers have a great 2020!! :)
4.200" bore on 4.400" bore spacing with Cometic will work fine. We ran many SBF's @4.180"+ and 4.380" bore spacing with Cometics, over 800HP, never had a problem.
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By proportion that last 15 thous. is worth ~ 5 HP. That's a thumbs up or thumbs down depending on your goals.
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Yep Bill, i have ran that very thought through my head more than once. 4.200 just sounds so much better LOL. :D
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Charliesauto wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:07 pm
swampbuggy wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:36 pm The engine is a S.B.C. . It will be N/A with no power adders. The engine block is Dart Iron Eagle 4.400" B.C.'s. Dart's 9 deg. alum. heads held down with the best studs available. Static compression will be between 14 to 14.5 . Estimated cranking compression 220-240 psi . Estimated H.P. 800 + .
Was planning on a 4.185" bore which would give .215" between cylinders. I am now considering a 4.200" bore which would reduce the dimension to .200". Without getting into all kinds of discussion on why not to start out with that big of a bore, i would appreciate opinions on (how much is not enough). BTW will be using what ever (most likely) Cometic recommends for the application. Thanks in advance for any responses Mark H., Hoping all Speedtalkers have a great 2020!! :)
4.200" bore on 4.400" bore spacing with Cometic will work fine. We ran many SBF's @4.180"+ and 4.380" bore spacing with Cometics, over 800HP, never had a problem.
SBFs also have the advantage of not having a middle row of head bolts warping the snot out of the bores and decks.
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Enough to hold what you are planning for, probably. Enough to hold for what you don't plan for, maybe not.
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swampbuggy wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:58 pm Yep Bill, i have ran that very thought through my head more than once. 4.200 just sounds so much better LOL. :D
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