NormS wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:21 am
Even though HotRod has pulled out of being involved in future Engine Masters competitions, it's nice to see that J&E, Amsoil, and SuperFlow are going to continue the program under the new name, Masters of Motors. I was sad to hear last fall, that the series had been cancelled for future years. I'm glad that these major sponsors are picking up the ball, and running with it.
GLHS60 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:11 am
I agree, you won't find me quoting from the dictionary, I can form my own opinions.
With all due respect, that's one of the dumbest comments I've read, in a long while.
The Dictionary is the authoritative source for the meaning of words.
Your opinion is not. It's just an opinion.
No college professor will accept your opinion as fact. No first grade teach will accept your opinion as fact.
If a cop clocks you going 20mph over the speed limit, but your opinion is that you were going the speed limit, how will that hold up in court?
Like I said before, all engines are motors, like all Blue Jays are birds.
"Engine" is a more definitive term, but "motor" is also correct.
So in your opinion, your opinion is the only opinion that counts.
GLHS60 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:11 am
I agree, you won't find me quoting from the dictionary, I can form my own opinions.
With all due respect, that's one of the dumbest comments I've read, in a long while.
The Dictionary is the authoritative source for the meaning of words.
Your opinion is not. It's just an opinion.
No college professor will accept your opinion as fact. No first grade teach will accept your opinion as fact.
If a cop clocks you going 20mph over the speed limit, but your opinion is that you were going the speed limit, how will that hold up in court?
Like I said before, all engines are motors, like all Blue Jays are birds.
"Engine" is a more definitive term, but "motor" is also correct.
An engine uses heat or combustion to produce motion (simplified) where a motor uses electricity or hydraulic pressure to produce motion. Motor terminology is almost never interchangeable with the word engine.
Substituting the word motor with engine in the above isn’t correct. Engine and motor used as an adjective instead of a noun is the confusing part. “Department of motor vehicles” “Motorboat” Motor describes movement of all types. As in motor skills in the human body. The word engine is specific to objects that convert heat to movement. You wouldn’t go to the Department of Engine Vehicles. Motor Vehicles is correct as it encompasses anything that moves. Electric cars, scooters, boats, buses, bicycle ect.
You can call it a steam motor and everyone would understand what you were talking about. But steam engine is the correct description as heat is being converted to motion.
Roundybout wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:47 pm
An engine uses heat or combustion to produce motion (simplified) where a motor uses electricity or hydraulic pressure to produce motion. Motor terminology is almost never interchangeable with the word engine.
Substituting the word motor with engine in the above isn’t correct. Engine and motor used as an adjective instead of a noun is the confusing part. “Department of motor vehicles” “Motorboat” Motor describes movement of all types. As in motor skills in the human body. The word engine is specific to objects that convert heat to movement. You wouldn’t go to the Department of Engine Vehicles. Motor Vehicles is correct as it encompasses anything that moves. Electric cars, scooters, boats, buses, bicycle ect.
You can call it a steam motor and everyone would understand what you were talking about. But steam engine is the correct description as heat is being converted to motion.
unfortunately you are wrong.
the origin of the word motor is "to move" hence it is any mechanical device that causes something to move i.e. motion
there is zero requirement for electricity to be involved
Roundybout wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:47 pm
An engine uses heat or combustion to produce motion (simplified) where a motor uses electricity or hydraulic pressure to produce motion. Motor terminology is almost never interchangeable with the word engine.
Substituting the word motor with engine in the above isn’t correct. Engine and motor used as an adjective instead of a noun is the confusing part. “Department of motor vehicles” “Motorboat” Motor describes movement of all types. As in motor skills in the human body. The word engine is specific to objects that convert heat to movement. You wouldn’t go to the Department of Engine Vehicles. Motor Vehicles is correct as it encompasses anything that moves. Electric cars, scooters, boats, buses, bicycle ect.
You can call it a steam motor and everyone would understand what you were talking about. But steam engine is the correct description as heat is being converted to motion.
unfortunately you are wrong.
the origin of the word motor is "to move" hence it is any mechanical device that causes something to move i.e. motion
there is zero requirement for electricity to be involved
I said that right above. Motor is movement. It doesn’t have to be electric. It doesn’t have to be hydraulic. It doesn’t have to be biological. It’s just a description of movement. “He has excellent motor skills” and “He has excellent engine skills” are two totally different statements and pointing out motor and engine are not interchangeable. A big part is if engine or motor is used as a noun or adjective
2020 Ford Global Technologies patent wrote:[0006]
Above all in the case of electrified motor vehicles with an electric motor, which scarcely generates engine sounds, as the traction motor, synthetic sounds play an even greater role for the perception by other traffic participants such as pedestrians or cyclists than in the case of motor vehicles with internal combustion engines as the traction motor.
Ford does refer to internal combustion engines as motors.
Q.E.D.
Next up, linguistics.
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Roundybout wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:47 pm
An engine uses heat or combustion to produce motion (simplified) where a motor uses electricity or hydraulic pressure to produce motion. Motor terminology is almost never interchangeable with the word engine.
Substituting the word motor with engine in the above isn’t correct. Engine and motor used as an adjective instead of a noun is the confusing part. “Department of motor vehicles” “Motorboat” Motor describes movement of all types. As in motor skills in the human body. The word engine is specific to objects that convert heat to movement. You wouldn’t go to the Department of Engine Vehicles. Motor Vehicles is correct as it encompasses anything that moves. Electric cars, scooters, boats, buses, bicycle ect.
You can call it a steam motor and everyone would understand what you were talking about. But steam engine is the correct description as heat is being converted to motion.
unfortunately you are wrong.
the origin of the word motor is "to move" hence it is any mechanical device that causes something to move i.e. motion
there is zero requirement for electricity to be involved
I said that right above. Motor is movement. It doesn’t have to be electric. It doesn’t have to be hydraulic. It doesn’t have to be biological. It’s just a description of movement. “He has excellent motor skills” and “He has excellent engine skills” are two totally different statements and pointing out motor and engine are not interchangeable. A big part is if engine or motor is used as a noun or adjective
no you said "a motor uses electricity or hydraulic pressure to produce motion." as in it has to be electric or hydraulic which is simply not the case
motor and engine are used Interchangeably for the internal combustion engine.....clearly
the origin of the word motor is "to move" hence it is any mechanical device that causes something to move i.e. motion
there is zero requirement for electricity to be involved
I said that right above. Motor is movement. It doesn’t have to be electric. It doesn’t have to be hydraulic. It doesn’t have to be biological. It’s just a description of movement. “He has excellent motor skills” and “He has excellent engine skills” are two totally different statements and pointing out motor and engine are not interchangeable. A big part is if engine or motor is used as a noun or adjective
no you said "a motor uses electricity or hydraulic pressure to produce motion." as in it has to be electric or hydraulic which is simply not the case
motor and engine are used Interchangeably for the internal combustion engine.....clearly
Now you’re nitpicking. Maybe I should have put “a motor CAN use either electric or hydraulic pressure to produce motion. A engine can use gasoline, natural gas, propane or diesel. I then went on to define motor as movement.
I said that right above. Motor is movement. It doesn’t have to be electric. It doesn’t have to be hydraulic. It doesn’t have to be biological. It’s just a description of movement. “He has excellent motor skills” and “He has excellent engine skills” are two totally different statements and pointing out motor and engine are not interchangeable. A big part is if engine or motor is used as a noun or adjective
no you said "a motor uses electricity or hydraulic pressure to produce motion." as in it has to be electric or hydraulic which is simply not the case
motor and engine are used Interchangeably for the internal combustion engine.....clearly
Now you’re nitpicking. Maybe I should have put “a motor CAN use either electric or hydraulic pressure to produce motion. A engine can use gasoline, natural gas, propane or diesel. I then went on to define motor as movement.
you should have said a motor is a mechanical device that produces motion
and
an engine is a mechanical device that uses a fuel to generate mechanical energy
