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superpursuit wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:15 pm Just to share figures : in Australia there is around 6500 people infected and 72 people have died from it. Most people that died were 65 & over. This is with a population of 25 million.

Allan.
Are your tracks closed?

With those low numbers I would think they should be open
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Tracks and most sporting events are cancelled
Government here in Australia is slowly lifting bans over the next couple of weeks
Winter is a month away so that will be interesting
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Here is to hoping the the back side of 2020 finds us happy, healthy, back at work and back on the race track.

Good health and wishes to you all.

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gmrocket wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:27 pm
superpursuit wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:15 pm Just to share figures : in Australia there is around 6500 people infected and 72 people have died from it. Most people that died were 65 & over. This is with a population of 25 million.

Allan.
Are your tracks closed?

With those low numbers I would think they should be open
Yes the tracks are closed. They even cancelled formula one when all the overseas teams were already in Melbourne ready for it.

All sports, etc, are cancelled as well. They are talking about having Rugby matches but if it does happen it will be without spectators.

We are currently on stage three restrictions and have stay at home orders except for work that cannot be done from home, food shopping, exercise or medical needs. Only allowed to be in groups of 2. Queensland and Western Australia are slowly lifting restrictions and the rest of the country are watching to see what happens.

Television has been playing 10 year old football games and old motorsport re runs.

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Tuner wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:54 pm Jefferson, S.D., where Saturday night saw a field of 64 sprint cars and dirt modifieds, including NASCAR veterans Ken Schrader and Kenny Wallace, run the first competitive oval-track race in the United States since March. Jeff Gluck’s Tweet last night summed up just how significant the former horse track in a field on the prairie was in the grand scheme of racing.


Bury NASCAR’s Heart at Park Jefferson? Successful Return to Racing Could Force Their Hand
https://www.frontstretch.com/2020/04/27 ... acing-now/

And just as Brock Zearfoss’s win took on an unusual significance on Saturday night, so did the broadcast of the features run at Park Jefferson. That a track in the middle of nowhere, South Dakota drew entries from literally Pennsylvania to Oregon (one entrant hauled his car 28 hours to compete) to run for a few grand speaks to the appetite among race teams to get back on the track. Having both classes of cars full of entries and a well-prepared surface made the show worth watching. I sincerely hope that said good show means that Speed Shift TV’s pay-per-view broadcast proved viable on a balance sheet because if it did, they’ve certainly shown a viable means to broadcast short-track races. Despite working with a crew of only three per the commentary booth, Speed Shift’s coverage missed absolutely nothing on-track over the course of eight heats, two B-mains and two features.
Fun fact, Ken Schrader and Kenny Wallace got their asses handed to them by the local guys, finished 12th and 13th. There is no doubt they came to race loaded for bear and they have good equipment but they were on the same tire as everybody else and that pretty much levels the playing field.
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When tracks re-open, does the social distancing rule mean that race cars must be kept 10ft apart from each other? :lol:
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David Redszus wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:52 pm When tracks re-open, does the social distancing rule mean that race cars must be kept 10ft apart from each other? :lol:
Well, that would be pretty normal for IndyCar.
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If yall believe the numbers that are being spouted, then we all are dumb. Any person that dies is put on death certificate that he died of Corona so they get help from the Feds. We have nursing homes that have never seen a doctor and they all died of Corona. Infected cases dont mean crap but deaths dont just help the states numbers. Sit down and figure out where our next up and rising politicians are coming from. Already sitting them selves up for the next run.
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racear2865 wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:04 pm If yall believe the numbers that are being spouted, then we all are dumb. Any person that dies is put on death certificate that he died of Corona so they get help from the Feds. We have nursing homes that have never seen a doctor and they all died of Corona. Infected cases dont mean crap but deaths dont just help the states numbers. Sit down and figure out where our next up and rising politicians are coming from. Already sitting them selves up for the next run.
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And you know the real numbers? Source? What you're saying isn't true, but you can continue believing what you want. Most do.

Probably not ironically, the people in my life who are most skeptical / lean towards conspiracy theories / think they have all the answers are those who are most at risk... males, 60+ years old, overweight, and typically with some sort of comorbidity. Not shockingly, the demographic on this forum also leans this way as well. Go to amateur racing event and you'll see the participants (drag racing in particular) and many of the spectators also fit this demographic, so it's not surprising.

Irony is also not lost on this cartoonist, and the person he portrayed...
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You can probably change "pilots" to "epidemiologists / medical professionals". Don't worry, what do they know? Some talking head with a communications degree on tv, a germaphobe / Madison Avenue / wannabe mobster trust fund president, "Billy down the street", some random user on a racing forum, or some random internet meme surely is the source of the truth / facts. Truth is, that demographic are the spooked old church ladies of this generation. You are sold a bottle of pills (with the promise of "the truth" and "facts") and they profit off of you, and due to your own stubbornness, you won't change your mind! It's a brilliant marketing plan :roll:

I mean, it's your life, but viruses don't discriminate. Do what you can to limit your exposure and recognize your own fragility. They say curiosity killed the cat, I think for many, stubborness killed the crotchety old man.

Maybe I'm being mean, but I thought people were the "I tell it like it is type". Funny enough, those people don't like when others tell them "how it is". :roll:

Hope you guys that want to keep safe and look after yourself, continue to do so.
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According to the CDC, the total number of deaths for the month of March, is well below the average number of deaths for March(about 15,000 less).
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyar ... Data16.csv

Could it be, that many of the people that died from Covid19, were already on their deathbed ?
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CamKing wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:38 pm According to the CDC, the total number of deaths for the month of March, is well below the average number of deaths for March(about 15,000 less).
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyar ... Data16.csv

Could it be, that many of the people that died from Covid19, were already on their deathbed ?
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... deaths.htm
Number of deaths reported on this page are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period. Data are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction and cause of death. See https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm for more information. Data for New York excludes New York City. Data on all deaths excluding COVID-19 exclude deaths with an underlying cause of U07.1. Deaths with a multiple or contributing cause of U07.1 are included; therefore counts may not match the numbers of COVID-19 deaths reported elsewhere that include deaths with a multiple cause of death code of U07.1. Death counts were derived from the National Vital Statistics System database that provides the timeliest access to the data and may differ slightly from other sources due to differences in completeness, COVID-19 case definitions used, data processing, and imputation of missing dates.
Weekly counts of deaths from all causes were examined, including deaths due to COVID-19. As many deaths due to COVID-19 may be assigned to other causes of deaths (for example, if COVID-19 was not mentioned on the death certificate as a suspected cause of death), tracking all-cause mortality can provide information about whether an excess number of deaths is observed, even when COVID-19 mortality may be undercounted. These estimates can also provide information about deaths that may be indirectly related to COVID-19. For example, if deaths due to other causes may increase as a result of health care shortages due to COVID-19. Additionally, deaths from all causes excluding COVID-19 were also estimated. These counts excluded deaths with an underlying cause of U07.1. Deaths with a multiple or contributing cause of U07.1 were included; therefore counts may not match counts of COVID-19 deaths reported elsewhere that include deaths with a multiple cause of death code of U07.1. Only about 5% of death records where U07.1 is present do not include it as the underlying cause of death.

Comparing these two sets of estimates—excess deaths with and without COVID-19—can provide insight about how many excess deaths are identified as due to COVID-19, and how many excess deaths are due to other causes of death. These deaths could represent misclassified COVID-19 deaths, or potentially could be indirectly related to COVID-19. Additionally, death certificates are often initially submitted without a cause of death, and then updated when cause of death information becomes available. It may be the case that some excess deaths that are not attributed directly to COVID-19 will be updated in coming weeks with cause-of-death information that includes COVID-19. These analyses will be updated periodically, and the numbers presented will change as more data are received.
These estimates are based on provisional data, which are incomplete. The weighting method applied here may not fully account for underreporting if there are longer delays at present than in past years. Conversely, the weighting method may over-adjust for underreporting, given improvements in data timeliness in certain jurisdictions. Unweighted estimates are provided, so that users can see the impact of weighting the provisional counts. However, these unweighted counts are underestimates, and the extent to which they may underestimate the true count of deaths is unknown. Some jurisdictions exhibit recent increases in deaths when using weighted estimates, but not the unweighted. These increases may be an early indication of excess mortality related to COVID-19, but should be interpreted with caution, until confirmed by other data sources such as state or local health departments. It is possible that recent improvements in the timeliness of data could also contribute to the pattern where a jurisdiction exhibits recent increases with the weighted data, but not the unweighted. Conversely, recent increases may be missed in jurisdictions with historically low levels of completeness (e.g., Connecticut, North Carolina) either due to the lack of provisional data or insufficient weighting to address incomplete data.
So currently, the observed spikes in deaths is actually under reported.
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hoffman900 wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:48 pm So currently, the observed spikes in deaths is actually under reported.
According to the CDC, almost all deaths are reported within 2 weeks.
That's why I was only looking at March. I checked those numbers for March, 2 weeks ago, and there wasn't more then 100 deaths added to any week.

For chits & giggles, jot down those numbers for the weeks of March(10-13), and check them again in a few weeks. They will be about the same.
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Latest info from dr's on site and not from politicians.
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CamKing wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:38 pm According to the CDC, the total number of deaths for the month of March, is well below the average number of deaths for March(about 15,000 less).
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyar ... Data16.csv

Could it be, that many of the people that died from Covid19, were already on their deathbed ?
In Italy, they have recorded people that died as a result of car accidents as "Covid-19" deaths, if their blood tested positive for Covid anti-bodies.
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GARY C wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:26 pm Latest info from dr's on site and not from politicians.
Facts have no role to play in a post-modernist world...Whats interesting about all this is all these post-modernist agendas that come one on the heels of another are being pushed by eugenicists. Are they giant real-time sh*t tests? :shock:
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