NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine - modeled in PipeMax v4.50

example File included with PipeMax v4.50 installation :
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Re: NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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example File included with PipeMax v4.50 installation :
NHRA_Stocker_LSA_Chevy283_BES_6500RPM_373HP_5000RPM_342TQ.PMW
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Re: NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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American Sprint Car Series (ASCS) 360cid
put out more than 700 hp and close to 600 lb.-ft. of torque on Methanol
need minimum of 14.5:1 compression
most use : 2-Step 1.625 , 1.750 Tube OD

so how can a much smaller NHRA 283cid with only 373 Peak HP
use same Header Tube OD sizes ???
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VITAL SPECIFICATIONS:
NHRA LEGAL STOCK ELIMINATOR 283 CHEVY
BORE – 3.935 INCHES
STROKE – 3.013 INCHES
DISPLACEMENT – 293.1 CID
COMPRESSION RATIO – 10.6:1
CAMSHAFT – BULLET HYDRAULIC FLAT-TAPPET
CAM DURATION – 258/260 DEGREES AT 0.050
VALVE LIFT – 0.399 INCH
ROCKER ARMS – CRANE BALL PIVOT STAMPED STEEL
ROCKER RATIO – 1.5:1
LOBE SEPARATION – 106 DEGREES
INSTALLED CENTERLINE – 102 DEGREES
TOP RING – TOTAL SEAL 1.2MM GAPLESS
SECOND RING – TOTAL SEAL NAPIER
OIL RING – TOTAL SEAL LOW-TENSION
PISTONS – ROSS STOCK LEGAL
BLOCK – 305 GM BOW TIE
CRANKSHAFT – BULLET GM
CONNECTING RODS – MANLEY 5.7-INCH SMALL JOURNAL
CYLINDER HEADS – GM IRON NO. 520T
INTAKE VALVE DIAMETER – 1.72 INCHES
EXHAUST VALVE DIAMETER – 1.5 INCHES
INTAKE MANIFOLD – GM IRON NO. 459 DUAL-PLANE
CARBURETOR – ROCHESTER 4GC
HEADERS – DENNIS REEVES 1 5/8-1 3/4  2-STEP
IGNITION – ICE IGNITION
DAMPER – ATI

ON THE DYNO
NHRA LEGAL STOCK ELIMINATOR 283 CHEVY
TESTED ON VP C-11 FUEL
TEST AT BES RACING ENGINES
RPM 	TQ 	HP
5,000 	342 	326
5,100 	338 	328
5,200 	335 	331
5,300 	333 	336
5,400 	332 	341
5,500 	331 	346
5,600 	329 	351
5,700 	326 	354
5,800 	324 	358
5,900 	321 	361
6,000 	318 	363
6,100 	315 	366
6,200 	312 	368
6,300 	308 	369
6,400 	305 	371
6,500 	301 	373
6,600 	296 	372
6,700 	290 	371
6,800 	286 	370
6,900 	281 	369
7,000 	276 	368
7,100 	271 	367
7,200 	266 	364
7,300 	259 	361
7,400 	254 	358
7,500 	248 	354
7,600 	241 	349
7,700 	234 	343
7,800 	227 	338
7,900 	220 	331
8,000 	213 	325 
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Re: NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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example File included with PipeMax v4.50 installation :
NHRA_Stocker_LSA_Chevy283_BES_6500RPM_373HP_5000RPM_342TQ.PMW
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Re: NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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Again.........look exactly how it carries power past peak.
Racing a NA NHRA stocker should be mandatory before any posting.
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Re: NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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vortecpro wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:48 pm Again.........look exactly how it carries power past peak.
OK, I'll play. What are the factors that allow it to carry the power past peak like it does?

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Re: NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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GTOMayhem wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:29 am
vortecpro wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:48 pm Again.........look exactly how it carries power past peak.
OK, I'll play. What are the factors that allow it to carry the power past peak like it does?

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My guess that one thing would be a super good valve job and port manipulation on the the exhaust side but I am sure there are other things that help make that happen.
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Re: NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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Like a happy bore / stroke ratio ? Mark H. :D
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Re: NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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swampbuggy wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:45 pm Like a happy bore / stroke ratio ? Mark H. :D
BES's 283 Stocker engine should have about 1.705" Hg. of Plenum vacuum @ 6500 RPM point of Peak HP
with the relatively restricted 4GC Carb on a dual-plane manifold .
coupled with just short stroke of 3.01300" + the plenum vacuum "rate effect" ... can extend the HP Curve

another good test would have been to put a single-plane manifold + like a 750 CFM Holley carb to see what RPM it would then make its Peak HP at ?
what i'm trying to point out is , in Dyno tests w/2-barrell restricted Carbs that might pull 5 to 7+ inches of plenum vacuum
those test's data sometimes show what appears to be wider RPM range with a HP curve similar to BES's 283
and when we just put on a 750CFM 0-8156 Carb the engine makes another 60 to 90 Peak HP and gives you a different HP Curve
that's not as wide or extended !

anyways , a short stroke crank typically byitself will give you a wider Range HP Curve
this works great for Formula One engines with their very short stroke cranks !
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Re: NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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the plenum vacuum "rate effect" ... can extend the HP Curve

another good test would have been to put a single-plane manifold + like a 750 CFM Holley carb to see what RPM it would then make its Peak HP at ?
what i'm trying to point out is , in Dyno tests w/2-barrell restricted Carbs that might pull 5 to 7+ inches of plenum vacuum
those test's data sometimes show what appears to be wider RPM range with a HP curve similar to BES's 283
and when we just put on a 750CFM 0-8156 Carb the engine makes another 60 to 90 Peak HP and gives you a different HP Curve
that's not as wide or extended !
the plenum vacuum "rate effect" ... can extend the HP Curve

take a look at this Thread Link , the SBF Dyno Sheet
viewtopic.php?p=876301#p876301
download/file.php?id=25213&mode=view


Peak TQ = 414.4 to 413.0 @ 4000 to 4100 RPM
Peak TQ = 410.0 @ 5100 RPM has another small TQ Peak
Peak HP = 447.9 @ 6500 RPM ... still pretty good up to 7100 RPM
even with Plenum Vacuum climbing to -6.0 "Hg. +

6500 RPM - 4100 RPM = 2400 RPM width

so the Plenum Vacuum Rate effect
can change a TQ and HP Curve enough to make it look extended and/or flatter

but in reality if Plenum Vacuum were in range of 0.7" to 1.2" or no more than 1.5"Hg
this same Engine Combo would not give you as wide or extend HP Curve
but instead would make a lot more Peak TQ and Peak HP

this larger Dirt Track restricted Ford SBF shows about same effects as BES 283 NHRA Stocker HP Curve w/restricted 4GC Carb + dual-plane
 
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Re: NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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Thanks Larry!
Racing a NA NHRA stocker should be mandatory before any posting.
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Re: NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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Off topic, but will probably fit in here?

What engine combination allows an engine to have both the Hp and T curves to continue to go up after they cross at 5252 rpm?

Please list compression ratios as well as cam spec's.

The reason I ask is that if not mistaken, the old L-88 engine did this?

Not sure about the Z-28, 302 engine?

Thanks,

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Re: NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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Any engine combo where peak torque occurs higher than 5252 rpm.
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Re: NHRA 283cid Stocker Engine

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pdq67 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:52 am Off topic, but will probably fit in here?

What engine combination allows an engine to have both the Hp and T curves to continue to go up after they cross at 5252 rpm?

Please list compression ratios as well as cam spec's.

The reason I ask is that if not mistaken, the old L-88 engine did this?

Not sure about the Z-28, 302 engine?

Thanks,

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extreme example would be Formula One Engine under older Rules :
Formula_One_V8_Cosworth_2006_146.38cid_19250RPM__755HP__214TQ
RPM HP
16000 614
17000 694 <<-- Peak TQ @ this RPM = 214.4
18000 731
18500 744
19000 754
19250 755 = BSFC = 275g/kW-Hour = 13.408558 Air/Fuel Ratio <<-- Peak HP
19500 747
20000 711

Notice that super short stroke gives you 19250 - 17000 = 2250 RPM spread between Peak TQ and Peak HP
Stroke = 1.56496
Rod C-C = 4.02195
2.57:1 Rod Ratio
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