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Anyone tried to run a belt driven aftermarket dry sump on the street long term of miles. Is that even doable.
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Little Mouse wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:36 pm Anyone tried to run a belt driven aftermarket dry sump on the street long term of miles. Is that even doable.
Yes, i ran a 5 stage for years in my corvette before selling the engine.

what does it matter to the street where you keep the oil?
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Ya it is overkill for someone not going to do road racing. Probably going to do a titan wet sump pump. Never had one but reading up on pumps i like the way a g-rotor pump works.
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Little Mouse wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:42 pm Ya it is overkill for someone not going to do road racing. Probably going to do a titan wet sump pump. Never had one but reading up on pumps i like the way a g-rotor pump works.
what engine? nothing wrong with a melling pump. if you dont need the volume you will just be bypassing a lot more oil.
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The z06 Vettes came dry sump in the C6 generation from the factory although not belt driven. I ran a ex cup sbf engine in my mustang for a few years that was dry sump still ran the a/c and power steering as well as a belt drive timing setup and never experienced any issues.
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I have used a belt driven single stage, external wet sump pump a lot of times.
Then you can compartmentalize the oil pan to keep all the excess oil under a false pan bottom.
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Peterson external R4 single stage wet sump pump for the win!! :-k
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Little Mouse wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:42 pm Ya it is overkill for someone not going to do road racing. Probably going to do a titan wet sump pump. Never had one but reading up on pumps i like the way a g-rotor pump works.
Every dry sump pump I've seen (granted, not all of them) had spur gears on each stage. G-rotor (gerotor? Gearrotor?) pumps need the inlet and outlet next to the gears rather than inline, which would make multi stage pumps difficult to package.

Every air cooled 911 was dry sump, although the pump setup was not belt driven, and was built to 1960s German OE level expectations of quality and longevity.
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Gerotor = generated rotor

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerotor

To the original poster, no answer, but a question: what is the engineering specification of this particular belt drive?
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Have not looked into them was thinking a 4 stage would be needed. As far as wet sumps in the pan was reading up on the geotor compared to spur gear pumps looks like a better way to pump oil. Id like to come up with a way to lower the engine and manual trans in a C3.
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peejay wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:04 am
Little Mouse wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:42 pm Ya it is overkill for someone not going to do road racing. Probably going to do a titan wet sump pump. Never had one but reading up on pumps i like the way a g-rotor pump works.
Every dry sump pump I've seen (granted, not all of them) had spur gears on each stage. G-rotor (gerotor? Gearrotor?) pumps need the inlet and outlet next to the gears rather than inline, which would make multi stage pumps difficult to package.
A lot of dry sump pumps in the marketplace use ROOTS type scavenge stages.
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Walter R. Malik wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:27 am
peejay wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:04 am
Little Mouse wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:42 pm Ya it is overkill for someone not going to do road racing. Probably going to do a titan wet sump pump. Never had one but reading up on pumps i like the way a g-rotor pump works.
Every dry sump pump I've seen (granted, not all of them) had spur gears on each stage. G-rotor (gerotor? Gearrotor?) pumps need the inlet and outlet next to the gears rather than inline, which would make multi stage pumps difficult to package.
A lot of dry sump pumps in the marketplace use ROOTS type scavenge stages.
I hear those are quite robust to small foreign objects, they can pass pieces without seizing the pump, is this correct?

If the scavenge stages push thru a filter/strainer, then gerotor or crescent gear pump etc. will do well on the pressure side, by my logic.
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