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LS stand alone ignition controller ?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:21 pm
by bigmike
Asking for a friend. Looking for a stand alone ignition controller in stock for a carburetor equipped LS engine. What are the options? I think his engine going in a older jeep has the 24x reluctor wheel.

Re: LS stand alone ignition controller ?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:32 pm
by Walter R. Malik
bigmike wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:21 pm Asking for a friend. Looking for a stand alone ignition controller in stock for a carburetor equipped LS engine. What are the options? I think his engine going in a older jeep has the 24x reluctor wheel.

I have used the older 6010 MSD with no issues but,
I have been told they now have another controller which works with a 58 tooth trigger..

Re: LS stand alone ignition controller ?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:46 pm
by rustbucket79
We have a msd controller on our dyno, it’s one of the newer models that comes with both the early and lat harnesses, and it auto configures so it’s simple to use. If you get more adventurous in the future it has a map sensor for boosted applications and you can build your own timing curve on your computer and down load it to the box. Cool stuff!

Re: LS stand alone ignition controller ?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:45 am
by BOOT
Is the new LS msd box programmable or just has a few presets to choose from? Kinda rem something bout presets back when I looked into a few years ago.

Re: LS stand alone ignition controller ?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:54 am
by CGT
I use the Daytona sensor unit. I was told by a couple people that had ran the MSD controller, that the Daytona control was an "upgrade". I can't speak for that since I haven't run the MSD personally, but it seems to be really nice. It has performed well, the software is nice and easy to use.

I have played with individual cylinder timing, rpm based timing curves, etc etc...Its pretty slick really.

But I have a major beef with it that Im not sure the MSD unit has. It will not tolerate non-resistor spark plugs, it makes this very clear to you :? . I contacted Daytona about the issue, and they are well aware and don't have a solution. Problem is....their control is running a 14:1 compression engine, and there is no availability of plugs in a suitable heat range for this application that are resistor type. Engine is showing signs of having to high of a heat range so...

Re: LS stand alone ignition controller ?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:48 am
by HDBD
Why not run solid core wire and resistor plug ends like the european cars use. Here is one, BOSCH 0356100015

Re: LS stand alone ignition controller ?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:11 am
by CGT
HDBD wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:48 am Why not run solid core wire and resistor plug ends like the european cars use. Here is one, BOSCH 0356100015
Thats been suggested to me, But I haven't seriously looked into it, ....and am not familiar with it. I will have to address it before I put it on the dyno next time for sure. I just didn't know how bulky they would be....as to not create issues with the headers. Thanks for the part # and suggestion. Still makes me scratch my head that with all the high horsepower computer controlled stuff out there currently that the spark plug manufactures haven't added some colder resistor plugs.

Re: LS stand alone ignition controller ?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:51 pm
by rustbucket79
Ours is the newer MSD 6014, look it up on their site, tons of cool features including programmable timing curves, etc.

Re: LS stand alone ignition controller ?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:14 am
by greenhj
I would take a look at the Haltech VMS. Essentially an elite 2500 ECU without injector drivers.

Not as cheap as the MSD or daytona but light years ahead in spec and tuneability.