Valve spring locators/cups (ID&OD) for double valve springs
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:58 am
Dear Friends,
I have read almost all the valve spring locator threads but I am not sure if I understand correct.
My topic question is not for a specific engine application but rather for correctly locating double valve springs both an alloy and cast iron heads.
1- With double springs, shall I try to aim to locate just the inner springs with ID type locators or both the inner springs and outer springs ? In other words, for double springs locating just the inner spring will be enough ?
2- In case if the inner valve spring is located properly with an ID type locator but the valve spring pocket is much larger than the OD of the outer spring, shall I try to locate the outer spring with a Cup type locator as well ?
3- is it correct to accept that there should NOT be a snug fit between the ID type locator’s OD and inner valve spring’s ID or OD cup locator’s ID and outer valve spring’s OD BUT there should always be clearance of 0.005”-0.010” ( not more than 0.010”) between the spring and any kind of locator ? And is it correct to accept same kind of clearance goes for the valve spring retainer’s inner locator steps for inner and outer springs ? Meaning that, there will never be snug fit situation but always some clearance.
4- If I were to machine any kind of the locator from scratch, what would be ideal materials to choose and the required hardness ?
Regards,
Kerem
I have read almost all the valve spring locator threads but I am not sure if I understand correct.
My topic question is not for a specific engine application but rather for correctly locating double valve springs both an alloy and cast iron heads.
1- With double springs, shall I try to aim to locate just the inner springs with ID type locators or both the inner springs and outer springs ? In other words, for double springs locating just the inner spring will be enough ?
2- In case if the inner valve spring is located properly with an ID type locator but the valve spring pocket is much larger than the OD of the outer spring, shall I try to locate the outer spring with a Cup type locator as well ?
3- is it correct to accept that there should NOT be a snug fit between the ID type locator’s OD and inner valve spring’s ID or OD cup locator’s ID and outer valve spring’s OD BUT there should always be clearance of 0.005”-0.010” ( not more than 0.010”) between the spring and any kind of locator ? And is it correct to accept same kind of clearance goes for the valve spring retainer’s inner locator steps for inner and outer springs ? Meaning that, there will never be snug fit situation but always some clearance.
4- If I were to machine any kind of the locator from scratch, what would be ideal materials to choose and the required hardness ?
Regards,
Kerem