Pipemax?

408 Nova · Post by **408 Nova** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:23 pm

Anyone care to Pipemax an 8500 rpm 401 ci SB2.2? I'm hoping it carries over good to 9000.

An EMC SB2.2 at around 850 hp back in 2012 had 2" to 2.125" stepped headers on the primaries, and they were 4-2-1's. That engine peaked at 7200 rpm and pulled to 8000 really good. I was kinda thinking along those lines, but it would be reassuring to know for sure via Pipemax, or any real world experience.

Post by **maxracesoftware** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:15 pm

408 Nova wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:23 pm Anyone care to Pipemax an 8500 rpm 401 ci SB2.2? I'm hoping it carries over good to 9000.

An EMC SB2.2 at around 850 hp back in 2012 had 2" to 2.125" stepped headers on the primaries, and they were 4-2-1's. That engine peaked at 7200 rpm and pulled to 8000 really good. I was kinda thinking along those lines, but it would be reassuring to know for sure via Pipemax, or any real world experience.

old NASCAR SB2.2 Engines went 9000+ RPM
search YouTube for those type Dyno tests videos

input 8500 RPM as Peak HP RPM point and see what PipeMax recommends ?
or Post a ScreenShot of your Inputs

this Link is wild build of turning a V8 into legal V6 SB2 NASCAR engine , it peaks around 9000 RPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsZ5FTtcHyg

408 Nova · Post by **408 Nova** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:15 pm

maxracesoftware wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:15 pm
408 Nova wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:23 pm Anyone care to Pipemax an 8500 rpm 401 ci SB2.2? I'm hoping it carries over good to 9000.

An EMC SB2.2 at around 850 hp back in 2012 had 2" to 2.125" stepped headers on the primaries, and they were 4-2-1's. That engine peaked at 7200 rpm and pulled to 8000 really good. I was kinda thinking along those lines, but it would be reassuring to know for sure via Pipemax, or any real world experience.
old NASCAR SB2.2 Engines went 9000+ RPM
search YouTube for those type Dyno tests videos

input 8500 RPM as Peak HP RPM point and see what PipeMax recommends ?
or Post a ScreenShot of your Inputs

this Link is wild build of turning a V8 into legal V6 SB2 NASCAR engine , it peaks around 9000 RPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsZ5FTtcHyg

Yessir, are 2"-2.125" stepped primaries what I need for the engine listed?

Post by **maxracesoftware** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:01 pm

Yessir, are 2"-2.125" stepped primaries what I need for the engine listed?

you mean a V8 version of the V6 SB2.2 engine in the video ?
or
your 8500 rpm 401 ci SB2.2 ? I'm hoping it carries over good to 9000 ?

post a screenshot of all your PipeMax inputs would greatly help

408 Nova · Post by **408 Nova** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:50 pm

The 8500 rpm sb2.2 if you don't care Sir.

What all do you need?

I know it's a lot to ask, and it's okay if you don't want to fool with it.

bob460 · Post by **bob460** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:08 pm

Sorry to go off topic but,That EMC engine............with .900 lift and only 250/600 spring pressure....

Post by **maxracesoftware** » Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:03 am

bob460 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:08 pm Sorry to go off topic but,That EMC engine............with .900 lift and only 250/600 spring pressure....

do you have a Link for that Engine ?

bob460 · Post by **bob460** » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:06 am

maxracesoftware wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:03 am
bob460 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:08 pm Sorry to go off topic but,That EMC engine............with .900 lift and only 250/600 spring pressure....
do you have a Link for that Engine ?

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1303phr ... evy-sb2-2/

Post by **maxracesoftware** » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:37 pm

bob460 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:06 am
maxracesoftware wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:03 am

do you have a Link for that Engine ?
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1303phr ... evy-sb2-2/

thanks bob460 , i realized i modeled this Engine a long time ago in PipeMax, and PipeMax v4.50 does a good job modeling this Engine
here's a Pic ....and will Post a bunch more Info .

Post by **maxracesoftware** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:25 am

408 Nova wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:50 pm The 8500 rpm sb2.2 if you don't care Sir.

What all do you need?

I know it's a lot to ask, and it's okay if you don't want to fool with it.

Happy New Year ... everyone !

408 Nova ,
here's a ton of information on building a SB2.2 402 cid by some of the best Engine Builders
these Pics + info will get you started in correct direction :

this Link on my Forum has larger Pictures :
https://www.maxracesoftwares.com/forum/ ... 1589#p1589

EMC2012_SAM_SB2.2_402cid_7200RPM_853HP_6000RPM_664TQ
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1303phr ... evy-sb2-2/

On The Dyno
402ci Chevy SB2.2
RPM TQ HP
6,000 664 758
6,200 664 784
7,200 622 853

Final Results 2012 AMSOIL Engine Masters Challenge
Xtreme Street Division
Place: Team: Score: 3,313.4
First School of Automotive Machinists

School of Automotive Machinists 402ci Chevy SB2.2 - Xtreme Victory
We look inside the School of Automotive Machinists’ 2012 AMSOIL EMC Xtreme
Division Champion SB2.2 Chevy!

Robert McGaffin photographer , Johnny Hunkins photographer , Steve Dulcich writer
Mar 1, 2013

Post by **maxracesoftware** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:28 am

PipeMax v4.50 simulation correlations to SAM's EMC2012 Engine :

Post by **maxracesoftware** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:30 am

PipeMax v4.50 EMC2012 SAM's simulation file with all pictures + info
Zipped File

EMC2012_SAM_SB2.2_402cid.zip

EMC2012_SAM_SB2.2_402cid_7200RPM_853HP_6000RPM_664TQ
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1303phr ... evy-sb2-2/

bob460 · Post by **bob460** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:03 am

This was done by Higgins down here in Australia........

420 SB2H Dyno results.....PUMP GAS!!

We set about to build a typical street car motor to show case what can be done with our new clean sheet Aussie made small port SB2H cylinder head and intake manifold combination and to bring the forever loved SBC into the 21st century. The bottom end features budget minded off the shelf components like a PEP crank, Molnar rods and CP pistons and the camshaft and lifter combination is happy cruising Friday and Saturday nights...
The Heads are 2.85 mcsa and with a 2.170 intake 1.6 exhaust valve. What makes this even more impressive is that it’s done with 4150 manifold / carburetor.

864HP, 640ft all by 7500RPM

https://www.facebook.com/HigginsRaceHea ... 02337/?t=3

Post by **maxracesoftware** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:04 am

bob460 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:03 am This was done by Higgins down here in Australia........

420 SB2H Dyno results.....PUMP GAS!!

We set about to build a typical street car motor to show case what can be done with our new clean sheet Aussie made small port SB2H cylinder head and intake manifold combination and to bring the forever loved SBC into the 21st century. The bottom end features budget minded off the shelf components like a PEP crank, Molnar rods and CP pistons and the camshaft and lifter combination is happy cruising Friday and Saturday nights...
The Heads are 2.85 mcsa and with a 2.170 intake 1.6 exhaust valve. What makes this even more impressive is that it’s done with 4150 manifold / carburetor.

864HP, 640ft all by 7500RPM

https://www.facebook.com/HigginsRaceHea ... 02337/?t=3

bob460 ... thanks for this Link + Video ... i Bookmarked the FaceBook link

plenty info to build a strong SB2.2 engine

408 Nova · Post by **408 Nova** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:11 am

maxracesoftware wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:04 am
bob460 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:03 am This was done by Higgins down here in Australia........

420 SB2H Dyno results.....PUMP GAS!!

We set about to build a typical street car motor to show case what can be done with our new clean sheet Aussie made small port SB2H cylinder head and intake manifold combination and to bring the forever loved SBC into the 21st century. The bottom end features budget minded off the shelf components like a PEP crank, Molnar rods and CP pistons and the camshaft and lifter combination is happy cruising Friday and Saturday nights...
The Heads are 2.85 mcsa and with a 2.170 intake 1.6 exhaust valve. What makes this even more impressive is that it’s done with 4150 manifold / carburetor.

864HP, 640ft all by 7500RPM

https://www.facebook.com/HigginsRaceHea ... 02337/?t=3
bob460 ... thanks for this Link + Video ... i Bookmarked the FaceBook link

plenty info to build a strong SB2.2 engine

maxracesoftware wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:30 am PipeMax v4.50 EMC2012 SAM's simulation file with all pictures + info
Zipped File
EMC2012_SAM_SB2.2_402cid.zip

EMC2012_SAM_SB2.2_402cid_7200RPM_853HP_6000RPM_664TQ
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1303phr ... evy-sb2-2/

maxracesoftware wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:37 pm
bob460 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:06 am
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1303phr ... evy-sb2-2/
thanks bob460 , i realized i modeled this Engine a long time ago in PipeMax, and PipeMax v4.50 does a good job modeling this Engine
here's a Pic ....and will Post a bunch more Info .

I'll tell y'all what, y'all are a wealth of information, and I highly appreciate it!

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