SBC ProCharger Cam
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SBC ProCharger Cam
Looking for some help with a cam for SBC with a ProCarger. I called 2 recommended well known cam companies. They were both very close in their recommendation, but the cams seems huge duration wise. 279*/ 283* on the intake @ .050 & 285*/287* on the exhaust @ .050, they were both around the .700 lift range, 114 lobe separation & both wanted them installed 4* advanced.
I told them this was for a bracket car & wasn't trying to set the world on fire. My goal is 850-900 hp at the crank. The current motor is a mild 434 sbc that makes 630 hp @ 6,100 at the crank. The major engine parts are being freshened/re-used. World Products Motown block, forged rotating assembly, Brodix 18x spread port heads. The compression is being lowered from 11.5 to 9.5 & the cam is being changed. The current cam is custom Comp Cam; 266* In./272* Ex. @ .050, .688 lift In./.631 Ex. on a 108 lobe separation.
The car is an 80 Camaro that weighs 3050 with driver. It has a 1.76 glide with a 5900 stall 9" convertor. The rear-end has 4.11 gears & we mainly run a 29.5x10.5 M/T pro bracket radial. The car has ran a best of 9.92 @ 136 & is detuned to run 10.0s. The convertor & gears will probably be changed for the new combo. Looking to run High 8s with new combo.
I told them this was for a bracket car & wasn't trying to set the world on fire. My goal is 850-900 hp at the crank. The current motor is a mild 434 sbc that makes 630 hp @ 6,100 at the crank. The major engine parts are being freshened/re-used. World Products Motown block, forged rotating assembly, Brodix 18x spread port heads. The compression is being lowered from 11.5 to 9.5 & the cam is being changed. The current cam is custom Comp Cam; 266* In./272* Ex. @ .050, .688 lift In./.631 Ex. on a 108 lobe separation.
The car is an 80 Camaro that weighs 3050 with driver. It has a 1.76 glide with a 5900 stall 9" convertor. The rear-end has 4.11 gears & we mainly run a 29.5x10.5 M/T pro bracket radial. The car has ran a best of 9.92 @ 136 & is detuned to run 10.0s. The convertor & gears will probably be changed for the new combo. Looking to run High 8s with new combo.
Re: SBC ProCharger Cam
What RPM do you want to turn it?
What heads are on it?
What rocker ratio?
How much boost ?
What heads are on it?
What rocker ratio?
How much boost ?
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Re: SBC ProCharger Cam
If they are 18 degree C heads you can use a pretty small cam and boost will dictate rpm to a point.
If they are 18 degree X heads you want some more cam.
I ran a 264/278 114+4 on a 374 with a F2 ran 7.70@180 3400lbs on 35lbs boost.
I ran a 255/266 112+2 on a 421 with a YSI made 850whp@6500 on 12lbs made 925@7000
I ran a 236/236 110 on a 408 LS3 D1SC made 770whp@7400 on 12lbs
if you are only looking for 900 i would suggest a new converter for sure. because you could make 900 just above its stall depending
I would contact Mike Jones (CamKing) or Glenn Steyers Gs Products
If they are 18 degree X heads you want some more cam.
I ran a 264/278 114+4 on a 374 with a F2 ran 7.70@180 3400lbs on 35lbs boost.
I ran a 255/266 112+2 on a 421 with a YSI made 850whp@6500 on 12lbs made 925@7000
I ran a 236/236 110 on a 408 LS3 D1SC made 770whp@7400 on 12lbs
if you are only looking for 900 i would suggest a new converter for sure. because you could make 900 just above its stall depending
I would contact Mike Jones (CamKing) or Glenn Steyers Gs Products
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Re: SBC ProCharger Cam
We currently shift @ 6600 & go thru the traps @ 6900-7300 depending on altitude. Would like to keep it in the same range.
Brodix 18 SP X, the 2nd one down on chart.
T&D rocker shaft 1.6 In., 1.5 Ex.
No more than 15 lbs.
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Re: SBC ProCharger Cam
Thanks MT for the info. I wanted to keep our general cam numbers but configured for the ProCharger (F1-A94). Yes, the convertor is getting reconfigured also.mt-engines wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:54 pm If they are 18 degree C heads you can use a pretty small cam and boost will dictate rpm to a point.
If they are 18 degree X heads you want some more cam.
I ran a 264/278 114+4 on a 374 with a F2 ran 7.70@180 3400lbs on 35lbs boost.
I ran a 255/266 112+2 on a 421 with a YSI made 850whp@6500 on 12lbs made 925@7000
I ran a 236/236 110 on a 408 LS3 D1SC made 770whp@7400 on 12lbs
if you are only looking for 900 i would suggest a new converter for sure. because you could make 900 just above its stall depending
I would contact Mike Jones (CamKing) or Glenn Steyers Gs Products
Re: SBC ProCharger Cam
This will keep the RPM range the same, and make your power goals.
Cam# SBC, R78440-82465-114
260/274 @.050"
.440"/.465" Lobe Lift
.686"/.680" Net Valve Lift (after lash) w/1.6-1.5 rockers
114 LSA
Cam# SBC, R78440-82465-114
260/274 @.050"
.440"/.465" Lobe Lift
.686"/.680" Net Valve Lift (after lash) w/1.6-1.5 rockers
114 LSA
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Re: SBC ProCharger Cam
Thanks Mike,
Is this a small base circle cam?
My current cam is a 4-7 swap, as were the other 2 recommended cams. Is this needed or will it hurt to have it?
Re: SBC ProCharger Cam
.900" Base Circle1700camaro wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:48 pmThanks Mike,
Is this a small base circle cam?
My current cam is a 4-7 swap, as were the other 2 recommended cams. Is this needed or will it hurt to have it?
There's no need for a 4/7 swap, but we can grind it on a 4/7 swap. There's no price difference.
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Re: SBC ProCharger Cam
Car is getting chassis updates as we post. When I get it back the motor & trans is coming out for updates. I'll call you when I'm ready to order the cam.
Thanks again, Bryan
Thanks again, Bryan
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Re: SBC ProCharger Cam
MT,mt-engines wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:54 pm If they are 18 degree C heads you can use a pretty small cam and boost will dictate rpm to a point.
If they are 18 degree X heads you want some more cam.
I ran a 264/278 114+4 on a 374 with a F2 ran 7.70@180 3400lbs on 35lbs boost.
I ran a 255/266 112+2 on a 421 with a YSI made 850whp@6500 on 12lbs made 925@7000
I ran a 236/236 110 on a 408 LS3 D1SC made 770whp@7400 on 12lbs
if you are only looking for 900 i would suggest a new converter for sure. because you could make 900 just above its stall depending
I would contact Mike Jones (CamKing) or Glenn Steyers Gs Products
Did you dyno any of these combos without boost? If you did how does affect the rpm peaks for HP & torque?
I saw an engine masters video where the torque peak raised from 5,000 rpm to 5,700 rpm & HP peak raised from 5,500 rpm to 5,900 rpm N/A compared to boost on a mild 350 sbc. The cam was a 230/230 110 comp cam hydraulic.