MELWAY wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:45 am
This new casting. Look a lot like AFR castings.
I wonder if they come out of same factory as the
AFR enforcer heads?
Anyone confirm if these New Dart castings are USA made?
AFR enforcer are offshore castings and machined by AFR, that casting is kinda copy of Dart pro1 plat. The offshore copy goes under many names or can be found generic on ebay. I have a few sets of them and they are not the same as either Dart 180 SHP
I don't know for certain if the NEW Dart SHP is USA cast, herd rumors that they may be not but don't think it was china in that rumor. I know Dart has had foundry issues.
1980RS wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:24 am
Ask any Stock or Super Stock guy about out of the box heads and see if they run'em that way, I bet not. My friend who runs an A/Stock Camaro had his new GM BBC heads that cannot be messed with other than valve work re-done, they picked up a bunch redoing the seats and valves and those were new heads. I always go back to Vortecpro's video on new head and valve seat runout. I touch up every seat and valve on my own stuff I get and for me the results have paid off performance wise.
Not trying to be rude but your not telling me anything that I've not read/herd at 1000 times. Every part has to be checked even assembled heads need to be taken apart, inspected and cleaned.
If my stuff was Max effort then I'd buy the equipment or pay someone to do a good VJ, it's not. I'm into diy and I improve what I can with what I have.
1980RS wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:24 am
Ask any Stock or Super Stock guy about out of the box heads and see if they run'em that way, I bet not. My friend who runs an A/Stock Camaro had his new GM BBC heads that cannot be messed with other than valve work re-done, they picked up a bunch redoing the seats and valves and those were new heads. I always go back to Vortecpro's video on new head and valve seat runout. I touch up every seat and valve on my own stuff I get and for me the results have paid off performance wise.
Not trying to be rude but your not telling me anything that I've not read/herd at 1000 times. Every part has to be checked even assembled heads need to be taken apart, inspected and cleaned.
If my stuff was Max effort then I'd buy the equipment or pay someone to do a good VJ, it's not. I'm into diy and I improve what I can with what I have.
A great valve job on any head is not a max effort, by the way when I just talked with my friend he said that valve job over the our of the box was worth 42hp. Money well spent for a good amount that amount of hp.
Flow is up, spec sheet only had @500 numbers.
11cfm on the intake
32cfm for the exhaust
Head now has a boss for a center coolant port & bosses that look to be for Stahl header pattern. Over all quality has improved alot and I like the new casting. They moved the spark plug over a bit. Deck appears to be thicker and flange gaskets fit is better.
1980RS wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:24 am
Ask any Stock or Super Stock guy about out of the box heads and see if they run'em that way, I bet not. My friend who runs an A/Stock Camaro had his new GM BBC heads that cannot be messed with other than valve work re-done, they picked up a bunch redoing the seats and valves and those were new heads. I always go back to Vortecpro's video on new head and valve seat runout. I touch up every seat and valve on my own stuff I get and for me the results have paid off performance wise.
Not trying to be rude but your not telling me anything that I've not read/herd at 1000 times. Every part has to be checked even assembled heads need to be taken apart, inspected and cleaned.
If my stuff was Max effort then I'd buy the equipment or pay someone to do a good VJ, it's not. I'm into diy and I improve what I can with what I have.
A great valve job on any head is not a max effort, by the way when I just talked with my friend he said that valve job over the our of the box was worth 42hp. Money well spent for a good amount that amount of hp.
So, what is the Hot set up on the valve job with the Edelbrock 401 head and the 934 head?
F-BIRD'88 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:03 pm
Any chance of flow testing these new SHP heads, Boot?
Actually I contacted a few other youtubers that flow heads and was gonna send the NEW SHP head(also offered the poor quality OLD) for them to make their own video flow testing. But no takers, so both heads are shipping out. I decided to go ahead and return the OLD head and just got off the phone to exchange the NEW head, so who knows when I'll get that replacement. Not really interested myself but figured many would like to see the actual flow numbers tested by an independent and it would be good content for someone else, figured wrong I guess.
F-BIRD'88 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:03 pm
Any chance of flow testing these new SHP heads, Boot?
Actually I contacted a few other youtubers that flow heads and was gonna send the NEW SHP head(also offered the poor quality OLD) for them to make their own video flow testing. But no takers, so both heads are shipping out. I decided to go ahead and return the OLD head and just got off the phone to exchange the NEW head, so who knows when I'll get that replacement. Not really interested myself but figured many would like to see the actual flow numbers tested by an independent and it would be good content for someone else, figured wrong I guess.
I said I would do it. I never said I wouldn’t.
Eric Weingartner
Weingartner Racing LLC
918-520-3480
www.wengines.com
WeingartnerRacing wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:48 am
I said I would do it. I never said I wouldn’t.
You said maybe December and in my last message I asked you to confirm. Then since you didn't reply, I figured that you were no longer interested. But it doesn't matter now, the heads are no longer my problem.
