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has anyone run .005" oil clearance on a 2.375" rod journal successfully?
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I think the better question is why would you want to?
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let's assume i don't want to and that's why I'm asking.
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You need to fix the clearance. You're not going to have a happy engine with that much clearance. Even Top Fuelers don't run that much clearance with a 70 grade oil. It gets sketchy past ~.0035" as the ability of the oil film, regardless of viscosity, to keep the journal from going too eccentric is greatly diminished. Peak load carrying capacity for a journal bearing is ~.001" per 1" of journal diameter which is why that's the industry standard. I wouldn't even think of trying to make .005" clearance work. I'd be getting the clearance tighter.
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Would have to agree, that is too much clearance for that size journal.
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ordered a new set of rod bearings. not sure how i ended up with the clearance i did with all new parts, but i suppose that is how things are these days.
fingers crossed that the next set are better.
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how did you determine clearance ?

What were the Journal diameters and housing bores.
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2.375 journal
2.380 id of bearing snapped into rod and torqued
measured a couple different spots with telescoping gage and mics. double checked with decent calipers. (we are looking for thousandths after all...) #-o
there was a couple tenths here and there, but it was a solid .005 on all.
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Not a fan of snap guages. I suggest you buy a piece of plastigauge as a pretty accurate check of what you are seeing.
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RDY4WAR wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 9:39 am You need to fix the clearance. You're not going to have a happy engine with that much clearance. Even Top Fuelers don't run that much clearance with a 70 grade oil. It gets sketchy past ~.0035" as the ability of the oil film, regardless of viscosity, to keep the journal from going too eccentric is greatly diminished. Peak load carrying capacity for a journal bearing is ~.001" per 1" of journal diameter which is why that's the industry standard. I wouldn't even think of trying to make .005" clearance work. I'd be getting the clearance tighter.
I know of few dozen blown Alky that run .009"..............................
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af2 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 3:36 pm
RDY4WAR wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 9:39 am You need to fix the clearance. You're not going to have a happy engine with that much clearance. Even Top Fuelers don't run that much clearance with a 70 grade oil. It gets sketchy past ~.0035" as the ability of the oil film, regardless of viscosity, to keep the journal from going too eccentric is greatly diminished. Peak load carrying capacity for a journal bearing is ~.001" per 1" of journal diameter which is why that's the industry standard. I wouldn't even think of trying to make .005" clearance work. I'd be getting the clearance tighter.
I know of few dozen blown Alky that run .009"..............................
And I wouldn't on a steel rod deal,
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