rant: why do people call iron heads steel heads?
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Aluminum and steel are generally continuously cast.
Check ALCOA for concast slabs. They can be as big as one per flatbed load.
And check US Steel, Edgar Thompson Works for concast steel that is being rolled into sheet that then is rolled up like toilet paper. These can be as big as one roll per flatbed. Also rolled to make pipe as well as thick slabs, H and I beams and even angle-irons and such.
I have worked in several aluminum and steel integrated mills and steel mini-mills through the years so have watched both operations creating product.
Right, the concast slabs and even cast ingots are reheated in reheat furnaces and then rolled to make shapes/sheets that are then turned into products.
They will take a concast piece, roll it into a slab then forge it into shape to create a billet that is then machined into a part or a regular forging.
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Check ALCOA for concast slabs. They can be as big as one per flatbed load.
And check US Steel, Edgar Thompson Works for concast steel that is being rolled into sheet that then is rolled up like toilet paper. These can be as big as one roll per flatbed. Also rolled to make pipe as well as thick slabs, H and I beams and even angle-irons and such.
I have worked in several aluminum and steel integrated mills and steel mini-mills through the years so have watched both operations creating product.
Right, the concast slabs and even cast ingots are reheated in reheat furnaces and then rolled to make shapes/sheets that are then turned into products.
They will take a concast piece, roll it into a slab then forge it into shape to create a billet that is then machined into a part or a regular forging.
pdq67
Re: rant: why do people call iron heads steel heads?
I wonder if steel heads are worth more than cast iron heads?
Jim
Re: rant: why do people call iron heads steel heads?
Well that's what it's all about really.77cruiser wrote:I wonder if steel heads are worth more than cast iron heads?
Salesmen?
If it's cast, it must be iron.
If it's steel , it automatically means that it's forged so it's worth lots more.
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Re: rant: why do people call iron heads steel heads?
No. Billets are machined from a solid chunk of material.dave brode wrote: ↑Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:52 am On that subject, aren't "billets" actually a casting? So, if true, doesn't a billet crank start from a casting?
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I think the point that's maybe being made is that all 'billets' start out as 'castings', ie liquified steel being poured into a mould to solidify, and then subsequently processed ...... rolled or forged etc ...... into the raw billetChevelleNut wrote:No. Billets are machined from a solid chunk of material.dave brode wrote: On that subject, aren't "billets" actually a casting? So, if true, doesn't a billet crank start from a casting?
Mostly these days by the 'continuous casting process'
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Yes, but do they not start as a casting? [poured as molten metal into a mold of some sort.ChevelleNut wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:37 pmNo. Billets are machined from a solid chunk of material.dave brode wrote: ↑Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:52 am On that subject, aren't "billets" actually a casting? So, if true, doesn't a billet crank start from a casting?
Like a "forged" piston, is cast, then hit with forging dies.
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All the time on FB Marketplace.
Here is where it started imo:
http://www.racingin.com/Series/SteelBlockBandits.aspx
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Oh, dear! So do I look for engine mounts or motor mounts then? Or rubber vibration transference isolators? Or perhaps rubber vibration absorptive containment devices? It's all so confusing......
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Re: rant: why do people call iron heads steel heads?
At one time I tended to call any white mystery metal i encountered "zinc"
But that went away as I learned to actually identify "white metals" such as lead alloys, tin alloys, babbitt, zamac, pewter, cupro-nickel, magnesium, ect.
Billet means it was carved out of a solid piece of material. Usually good quality material is used.
Tho if you had a solid block of melted down licensee plates...I'd say that's still a "billet".
But that went away as I learned to actually identify "white metals" such as lead alloys, tin alloys, babbitt, zamac, pewter, cupro-nickel, magnesium, ect.
Billet means it was carved out of a solid piece of material. Usually good quality material is used.
Tho if you had a solid block of melted down licensee plates...I'd say that's still a "billet".
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Probably the same reason some track rules in my area state NO NITROUSMETHANE, they don't have a clue and go by what others have said in the past.
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If that's official nitromethane would be legal.
Jim