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Eldest son sent me this tonight......

Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases......

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard- ... na-related

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I'm quite confidant that the Covid-19 pandemic (as all the other pandemics), is the result of cross species transmission.

The only conspiracy I'll accept is that the Chinese are covering up and hiding the real data. There is no way that the country at the source of the outbreak, with a very high population density and no warning could have such low numbers. Its estimated that the true numbers of cases and casualties are forty times higher than reported.
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They under or overreport on almost everything, so it is to be expected that this follows suit.

Meanwhile our government is counting those that have effectively been diagnosed (testing is only done on people that have high fever and are ill). This seriously skews the numbers as well as in that situation the death rate becomes seriously inflated.

What I still don't understand is that they do not flatout test everyone and isolate those that have the disease and get the rest back to work.
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Belgian1979 wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:50 am They under or overreport on almost everything, so it is to be expected that this follows suit.

Meanwhile our government is counting those that have effectively been diagnosed (testing is only done on people that have high fever and are ill). This seriously skews the numbers as well as in that situation the death rate becomes seriously inflated.

What I still don't understand is that they do not flatout test everyone and isolate those that have the disease and get the rest back to work.
Because the amount of tests and the infrastructure to facilitate such as massive task do not exist in the US.

If we tested everyone, quarantined the sick, and had everyone else wear PPE and practice proper hygiene, we would essentially stop the virus in its tracks. We are not capable of doing any of that. It's not directly the fault of any individual person or administration, it's just "how we roll".
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I don't think tracking will go over well in most countries outside of China

https://www.wfla.com/community/health/c ... down-ends/
Wuhan residents are now permitted to leave without special authorization as long as a mandatory smartphone application powered by a mix of data-tracking and government surveillance shows they are healthy and have not been in recent contact with anyone confirmed to have the virus.
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Keith Morganstein wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:02 pm I don't think tracking will go over well in most countries outside of China

https://www.wfla.com/community/health/c ... down-ends/
Wuhan residents are now permitted to leave without special authorization as long as a mandatory smartphone application powered by a mix of data-tracking and government surveillance shows they are healthy and have not been in recent contact with anyone confirmed to have the virus.
Exactly, even now it would never go over, in the beginning absolutely not.

Check out how Taiwan managed only 5 deaths
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enigma57 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:56 am Eldest son sent me this tonight......

Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases......

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard- ... na-related

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Not just in your country.

Last year here a Chinese researcher and a few of her Chinese students were escorted out of Canada’s only bio lab. Then deported

It’s impossible to find out why.. but speculation is they were doing things with viruses that ended up in China
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Point well taken and not surprised by that at all, gmrocket. The communist Chinese are not our friends and we need to break our dependence on them for essentials such as medicines and manufactured products and pretty much anything involving national security. Nixon and Kissinger must have been out of their minds to discontinue the 2-China foreign policy.

Regarding the Wuhan Coronavirus....... We heard that your Prime Minister's wife has come down with the virus and we wish her a full and speedy recovery.

Other than that...... Just a line to say hello to all and we hope that you and your families are all doing well there. Especially with the virus and all. We are doing OK here. Only go out a couple times each week for provisions. Many things are still in short supply at the stores here. Most notably, toilet tissue. I find that very strange. Must be a psychological factor involved in some way. Perhaps it gives some folks an illusion of control or possibly well being. Hard to figure. We are down to our last 8 rolls of scratchy wipe here. Should be OK so long as no one comes down with the trots. Hoping to score some next trip to the store. More and more, I have the feeling of being on a recon mission when I go there, as I am looking to see if any of the items we are low on have come in. And in most cases, they have not.

Wish you all the best and a very Happy Easter or Passover as the case may be. I must go for now. Just had a Weather Alert on TV. We are expecting some bad weather through here in the next hour or so. Weather man says about 4" of rain over 30 - 40 minutes time, 1-1/2" hail, possible tornadoes. That sort of thing. So I need to feed the dogs and give them some time out in the back yard before the weather turns ugly. Will write again soon.

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I fear the economic consequences and the taxes that the governments is going to impose to compensate for the expenses a lot more that I fear the virus.
If this lingers for something like 2-3 months more, there will be more people dying because of lack of food, housing etc that as a direct consequence of the corona virus.
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My response to a friend in Canada who wants to send me some videos purporting to expose the origins of the Wuhan Coronavirus......
A very Happy Easter to you and to your family! Yes, please send along the videos. I may take a few days to view them, as I must do our federal taxes and file them and I must deal with an infection in my leg here. I realize many of these videos run the gamut. On the one hand, you have the leftists who are simply attempting to spread panic and disinformation in order to crash the economy and the stockmarket for purely political reasons as they think they can create a crisis and then blame the handling of it on President Trump come election time in November. And on the other side, you have those who would have us believe that the virus is an outright hoax used as a pretext to take away our constitutional rights. Yes, we must guard against those who political opportunists who will use any crisis to push their agenda. However, the truth lies somewhere in between these extremes.

As near as I have been able to determine, the Wuhan Coronavirus was created in the bio lab in Wuhan, China. It is a bio weapon created by adding 4 new elements derived from bat DNA to the existing SARS virus (also a bio weapon created by communist Chinese bio labs). There is no way this virus is anything which developed naturally and somehow jumped from animal to man. It is a man made bio weapon designed to do just what it has done thus far. Whether it simply got away from the ChiComs and into the public there or was intentionally deployed in multiple target areas by one of the Middle Eastern terrorist nations that buy it from China...... Think Iran here...... I do not know for sure. But I lean towards intentional deployment because of the nature of the far flung sites it simultaneously sprang from rather than a single source, gradual pattern of spread from only the Wuhan bio lab point of origin.

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Lengthy, but worth watching......







I have just finished watching the videos above. They were sent to me by a friend in Canada. Based upon what I know personally and everything I heard in the videos, my considered opinion is that this lady speaks the truth.

She does a great job of connecting the dots and if you pull back and look at the 'big picture'...... I'd say that she is correct in her conclusions regarding the organizations, those behind them and their real agenda. Including vaccinations.

Overlay what she said onto UN Agenda 21 and the agendas of people such as Bill Gates (a principle funder of the Wuhan bio lab) and George Soros...... And it all falls into place.

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I have not watched the videos yet but I keep wondering about something.
.....How the heck did Bill Gates get dragged into this mess?
I suspect like a lot of the BS that rain on us daily it's a Facebook and Twitter thing dreamed up by brain dead idiots that can't spell, much less believe in context.
Ironic that something his and Jobs work laid the groundwork for was in turn used to create social media now tries to crucify him.
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Dave, Bill Gates is one of the principle funders of the Wuhan bio lab which makes bio weapons for the communist Chinese government. He is involved with the WHO who were complicit in what went down there and allowing it to spread worldwide. Deeply complicit. Gates was not dragged into this...... He is at the center of it all.

2 things all need to be mindful of in addition to that......

1. Take the time to view Dr. Buttar's comments here......




2. Regarding the recent debates regarding the President's authority to determine when states resume normal routine when this manmade 'pandemic' has run its course......

If any states' governors go rogue...... The President does have authority under the Constitution to intercede. His authority comes from the Interstate Commerce clause of the Constitution. Has nothing to do with federalism nor the 10th Amendment as so many seem to think. Just want to be clear about that.

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enigma57 wrote:
2. Regarding the recent debates regarding the President's authority to determine when states resume normal routine when this manmade 'pandemic' has run its course......

If any states' governors go rogue...... The President does have authority under the Constitution to intercede. His authority comes from the Interstate Commerce clause of the Constitution. Has nothing to do with federalism nor the 10th Amendment as so many seem to think. Just want to be clear about that.


I should add...... The Commerce Clause of our Constitution provides that states may pass no laws affecting interstate commerce in contradiction of federal law. The President enforces (and protects) the Constitution. Therefore, enforcement of interstate commerce is the purview of the Executive branch.



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