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Only electric cars sold in India by 2030

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Re: Only electric cars sold in India by 2030

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The lack of imagination in so many replies is astounding! As if technology will just lay stagnant (why would anybody even want this?) while we drive our little toys around. I doubt that I'll ever own an electric vehicle in my lifetime, but by the time they are economically feasible, we'll (or people will, if I'm dead) be wondering why we drove such stinking, slow, heavy vehicles for so many decades. Resisting change is human nature, I get it...
Albert Einstein wrote:“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.”
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Its my understanding that they should economically on par with gasoline engines by 2025. But then what happens to the subsidies?? At some point that has to go.

And what about the lithium issue? If its true that there is not enough lithium to go around then what? Have they considered this?

And what about all the extra power plants needed to supply all this extra electricity?

And what about recycling all these batteries? If you can't what do you do with them? NOT IN MY BACKYARD?

And what about charging stations? I live just 45 min north of NYC. With the population density there is here there are only 2 charging stations I know of. They are in a Mrs Greens.

So while they shove this down our throats there are still a lot of unanswered questions as far as I'm concerned.
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o The U.K. estimates they will need a 50% increase in power plant capacity to handle an all-electric car fleet (and what about big trucks and all the other hydrocarbon-feeders?).Nobody wants nukes in their back yard; they have no Niagara Falls; the wind doesn't always blow nor does the sun always shine; which leaves..??
o Until charge times are cut from hours to a couple of minutes (how many thousands of amps will that be?) long-distance electric power travel will at a horse and buggy average pace.
o How long will it be before they start taxing vehicle charging power like they do fossil fuels? (over 60% of the U.K. fuels' retail price is tax.)
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MadBill wrote:o The U.K. estimates they will need a 50% increase in power plant capacity to handle an all-electric car fleet (and what about big trucks and all the other hydrocarbon-feeders?).Nobody wants nukes in their back yard; they have no Niagara Falls; the wind doesn't always blow nor does the sun always shine; which leaves..??
o Until charge times are cut from hours to a couple of minutes (how many thousands of amps will that be?) long-distance electric power travel will at a horse and buggy average pace.
o How long will it be before they start taxing vehicle charging power like they do fossil fuels? (over 60% of the U.K. fuels' retail price is tax.)
Then there is the ever increasing problem that oil is not fossil fuel. Here are some studies from 1995 to 2012
"COULD it be that many of the world's oil fields are refilling themselves at nearly the same rate they are being drained by an energy-hungry world?" http://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/26/scien ... rally.html
"Deep underwater, and deeper underground, scientists see surprising hints that gas and oil deposits can be replenished, filling up again, sometimes rapidly." http://rense.com/general63/refil.htm
"Depleted oil pools seem to be renewing themselves inexplicably. Is petroleum a renewable resource?" http://rense.com/politics6/replent.htm
"Fossils From Animals And Plants Are Not Necessary For Crude Oil And Natural Gas, Swedish Researchers Find" http://viewzone.com/abioticoilx.html
"Are Oil Wells Recharging Themselves?" http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-Gener ... elves.html
Then you take into account the production interruption by sanctions and the 17 year war in the middle east as well as the vast number of new oil fields discovered, $49.00 a barrel oil ($9.00 above the first barrel pumped in 1870) and I think you can come to conclusion that we have more than we know what to do with.
New Oil Fields... https://www.bing.com/search?q=new+oil+f ... orm=MOZSBR
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"Speed is not a word typically associated with trees; they can take centuries to grow. However, a new study finds evidence that forests in the Eastern United States are growing faster than they have in the past 225 years. The study offers a rare look at how an ecosystem is responding to climate change." https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 171641.htm
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In reading, the major problem with building all these electric cars will be a shortage of cobalt for the magnets, and lithium for the batteries, current production and known reserves are just not enough.
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We in the US know what can happen to Indians. We are already taking reservations..... :D
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MadBill wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:07 pm.
Aha!
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Re: Only electric cars sold in India by 2030

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Topic revival? :)

Has anyone seen video of how they drive in India? Especially in their congested cities with shabby roads and no city-planning? Where every motorised verhicle creates a lot of noise?
Imagine all that without the noise. Like watching a silent movie of New York in the '20s.
I think India's non-car-owning population will be decimated overtime when everything turns electric, and mainly because most of the non-verhicle owners (pedestrians) have been killed by morons in their quiet electric cars.

Then again, it will probably take another 35 years before all the ICE-vehicles have been replaced unless gasoline/diesel will be outlawed there.
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So when are all the other messes there going to be cleaned up, like the ship busting industry.
Oh and here is how all those electric cars will be charged, by building lots of these.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmapur ... ower_Plant
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