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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by GRTfast » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:57 am

From the link:

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"There is a tiny electric motor that rotates the mirror. So it isn't possible to do without electricity altogether? The inventor signals his disagreement. "Eight milliamperes at nine volts", he says. That is only a control mechanism. The power at the shaft is much greater. Engel also thought about a mechanical drive for the mirror directly from the rotor shaft, but opted against this as it would considerably increase mechanical complexity.

What is the next step now? Engel wants to attach a small generator to the shaft and show that his motor delivers more electricity than is needed for its control. If he could do that, we'd really have some sensational news."


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He claims that the "power of the shaft" is much greater, however the output power of the motor was never measured. The power to run the motor is coming from his electric motor that rotates the reacting magnet (what he calls the mirror).

The reason he never ran the "mirror" from a mechanical drive connected to the shaft is because the motor would never run, because conservation of energy is an undeniable fact of reality. The reason he never measured or published the output power of his motor is because it would reveal the output power is less than the power draw of his control mechanism.

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by Kevin Johnson » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:41 pm

https://watch-wiki.org/index.php?title=Engel,_Thomas wrote:2014 interessierten sich auch zwei Ingenieure von Siemens für diesen Motor. Doch auch deren Untersuchung ergab, dass der von Siemens begutachteter Engelmotor mehr elektrische Energie verbrauchte als er zur Verfügung stellte. Es handelte sich demzufolge um einen herkömmlichen Elektromotor.


In 2014, two Siemens engineers were also interested in this engine. However, their investigation revealed that the Engel engine reviewed by Siemens consumed more electrical energy than it provided. It was therefore a conventional electric motor.

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by GRTfast » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:19 pm

Kevin Johnson wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:41 pm
https://watch-wiki.org/index.php?title=Engel,_Thomas wrote:2014 interessierten sich auch zwei Ingenieure von Siemens für diesen Motor. Doch auch deren Untersuchung ergab, dass der von Siemens begutachteter Engelmotor mehr elektrische Energie verbrauchte als er zur Verfügung stellte. Es handelte sich demzufolge um einen herkömmlichen Elektromotor.


In 2014, two Siemens engineers were also interested in this engine. However, their investigation revealed that the Engel engine reviewed by Siemens consumed more electrical energy than it provided. It was therefore a conventional electric motor.
Good find.

This Siemens engineer (me) was able to make that determination without investigating. As it turns out, having a basic working knowledge of physics is useful. :lol:

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