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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by gruntguru » Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:43 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:20 pm
Energy comes from electron orbits.
Just like the nuclear fuel SELF fissses, in a magnet all the little spins align similar to coherent light for a laser, and is SELF powering. And like all the infrastructure for a nuke system that is the motor assembly for the magnet system motors, the guy that replicated the experiments was not cheating he was showing how it works, he is not asking for anything. How many battery's are hidden in the engine masters engines? :lol:
There are two ways you can go here.
1. Go and complete a unit in thermodynamics at a university.
2. Try and replicate one of these "experiments" for yourself. (as I suggested earlier)

At the end of either process you will be qualified to spout on the subject of perpetual motion - as of now you have no idea what you are talking about.

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by exhaustgases » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:37 pm

The guy in the video proves you all wrong.
It is power from magnets, that is the power source.

Here is one of my ideas already done by someone else, the window I was talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InO00DZT6iY

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Re: Here is how to do it

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by GRTfast » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:18 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:37 pm

It is power from magnets, that is the power source.

Wrong.

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by GRTfast » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:22 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:37 pm
The guy in the video proves you all wrong.
It is power from magnets, that is the power source.

Here is one of my ideas already done by someone else, the window I was talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InO00DZT6iY
I have an over unity machine***

***pay no attention to the bank of batteries that has to be connected to my machine to make it work.

#-o #-o

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by exhaustgases » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:36 pm

GRTfast wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:18 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:37 pm

It is power from magnets, that is the power source.

Wrong.
Just like a battery just sits there as a potential power source so does the magnet. =D>
And the battery can not power anything until you figure out how to use that power.

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by GRTfast » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:12 am

exhaustgases wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:36 pm
GRTfast wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:18 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:37 pm

It is power from magnets, that is the power source.

Wrong.
Just like a battery just sits there as a potential power source so does the magnet. =D>
And the battery can not power anything until you figure out how to use that power.
A battery stores chemical energy and converts it to electricity when the battery is connected to a circuit. Energy is transferred from the battery to the device, and the battery has a specific capacity. This is all well known, is designed for, and can be represented mathematically. Where is the analogous explanation and math for these over unity permanent magnet motors? Where is the energy coming from? What is the change in state of the atoms that allows us to verify some energy has been "transferred" to the motor? In a ICE, its the chemical energy released as heat during the oxidation of the fuel. In a battery its chemical energy stored/released as the anode and cathode release/absorb electrons. In an electric motor or generator, electricity is converted to/from shaft work by using the input rotation to move conductors relative to a field.

These magical magnet motors have no such explanation. Just claims built on myths like magnetic mono-poles and magic magnetic flux shutters that take no energy to operate. Furthermore, when you attempt to support your position by posting a video of a magnetic transmission (that you obviously didn't research), it was exposed that the patent made no claims about operating over unity, and even specifically claimed that rotation had to be induced externally.

sigh...

Build one. Prove us wrong.

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by GRTfast » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:48 pm

In the mean time, here's something for you to watch EG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT_bTnk ... e=youtu.be

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by Nefario » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:53 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:36 pm
Just like a battery just sits there as a potential power source so does the magnet.
Just like springs! You could put a series of extension springs around a crankshaft and make a motor...

And if you used different types of springs they will operate at different frequencies and keep it turning...

And you could use TWO cranks 180° out of phase to help it work, because, ya know, phase angles are important...

And you could use HUNDREDS of springs because, say, only six in a radial pattern doesn't look like enough....

Right??
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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by exhaustgases » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:17 pm

Springs won't work since there is no way to turn off the force for a reversal. Just look at that simple over head magnet engine in the one video. That shows a simple way to time the magnetic forces.
Oh and GRT that video, yeah there are tons of naysayers for many topics. Take the UFO topic that is now being proven as true, only took most of my life time to get there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqlPePYgdg4

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by gruntguru » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:46 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:17 pm
Springs won't work since there is no way to turn off the force for a reversal.
BINGO!

. . . . and the same applies for magnets. There is no way to turn the force off (or on) that does not require energy input - and the amount of energy that must be input is ALWAYS as much or more than the energy you get out.

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by GRTfast » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:05 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:17 pm
Springs won't work since there is no way to turn off the force for a reversal. Just look at that simple over head magnet engine in the one video. That shows a simple way to time the magnetic forces.
Oh and GRT that video, yeah there are tons of naysayers for many topics. Take the UFO topic that is now being proven as true, only took most of my life time to get there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqlPePYgdg4
You can’t “turn off” the magnet without using energy. You just can’t. The reason springs won’t work is the same reasons magnets won’t work. The force is ultimately from the same place too.

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by exhaustgases » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:13 pm

gruntguru wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:46 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:17 pm
Springs won't work since there is no way to turn off the force for a reversal.
BINGO!

. . . . and the same applies for magnets. There is no way to turn the force off (or on) that does not require energy input - and the amount of energy that must be input is ALWAYS as much or more than the energy you get out.
Just look at the videos they show how to accomplish that. Springs need to be re compressed a magnet always puts out its force.

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by exhaustgases » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:15 pm

GRTfast wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:05 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:17 pm
Springs won't work since there is no way to turn off the force for a reversal. Just look at that simple over head magnet engine in the one video. That shows a simple way to time the magnetic forces.
Oh and GRT that video, yeah there are tons of naysayers for many topics. Take the UFO topic that is now being proven as true, only took most of my life time to get there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqlPePYgdg4
You can’t “turn off” the magnet without using energy. You just can’t. The reason springs won’t work is the same reasons magnets won’t work. The force is ultimately from the same place too.
Thats the secret, how to use very little energy to turn off or reduce the magnetic force. That magnet cam engine is a great example how to do it.
Problem solved.

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Re: Here is how to do it

Post by GRTfast » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:20 am

exhaustgases wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:15 pm
GRTfast wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:05 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:17 pm
Springs won't work since there is no way to turn off the force for a reversal. Just look at that simple over head magnet engine in the one video. That shows a simple way to time the magnetic forces.
Oh and GRT that video, yeah there are tons of naysayers for many topics. Take the UFO topic that is now being proven as true, only took most of my life time to get there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqlPePYgdg4
You can’t “turn off” the magnet without using energy. You just can’t. The reason springs won’t work is the same reasons magnets won’t work. The force is ultimately from the same place too.
Thats the secret, how to use very little energy to turn off or reduce the magnetic force. That magnet cam engine is a great example how to do it.
Problem solved.
You’ve been fooled by these videos you watch. There is no “turning off or reducing the magnetic force” using “very little energy”. Energy is conserved. If magnets did not behave as they do, or we did not understand how they behave, the computers we are using to have this “debate” would not function.

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