TorqueMaster cam program update

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OK, after following all these posted comments I am somewhat concerned that many are just not reading my posts.

Many of the problems I am seeing put forward have totally effective fixes right at this very moment.

Lets go through some of these:- first the selection of the cam events – Just use my TorqueMaster program – it’s free to pro engine builders and it is accurate – deadly accurate.


Here are the inputs:-
Bore
Stroke
Rod length
CR
In. valve dia
Ex. valve dia.
In RR
Ex RR
Required Peak power RPM
Induction Length
Single or dual pattern

Outputs are as follows: -
CID
Peak HP piston speed
LCA
In duration
Ex duration
Overlap
Cam advance
Intake CL
Min In lift
Min ex lift
Idle Vacuum
Dynamic CR
Cranking pressure
Torque potential
Hp potential
Req. Min head port flow
Target intake port cc’s

Peak HP RPM from induction length input
Peak torque RPM from induction length input.

Using the output figures the data bank is addressed and the data the user has access too for a final profile choices are:-

Cam type – solid, hyd. roller or flat
Part #
Application – street, strip, road race etc.
Single or dual pattern
LCA
Overlap
Intake duration @ (depends on solid or hyd.)
Intake duration @ 0.050
Intake duration @ 0.200
Intake minor intensity
Intake major intensity
Lobe area
Lobe aggression index


Ex. duration @ (depends on solid or hyd.)
Ex. duration @ 0.050
Ex. duration @ 0.200
Ex. minor intensity
Ex. major intensity
Lobe area
Lobe aggression index


Required cam advance ( (A calculated value not a generic 4 degrees!)
Required intake C/L
Intake lobe lift
Ex. lobe lift
Valve lifts with RR entered
RR required to meet lift requirements
Recommended lift by part # for the cams aggression index
Spring seat pre-load lbs
Nose spring force required Lbs
Mechanical RPM limit to valve crash with components used.

Cylinder head data bank:-
This at present contains for SBC and SBF all the functional heads on the market with flow curves programed into the selection program. This has the following:-

Brand
Part #
Iron or Aluminum
Bare or Assembled
CNC – yes or no.
Port positions – raised or stock
Plug location angled or straight
Chamber volume
Intake valve size
Ex valve size
Intake port cc’s
Exhaust port cc’s
Required min intake lift
Intake flow @ required min lift
Valve lift given with already assembled heads
Max manufactures rpm with the springs they use for an assembled head
Spring lbs – seat and at specified lift
Application – street – strip – race
Rocker mount – trunnion or shaft

Rocker data:-
Manufacturer
Part #
Aluminum or steel
Advertised ratio
Lift at TDC on test cam
Max lift delivered on test cam
Instantaneous ratio at the point of opening
Ratio at TDC

Ratio at full lift of cam selected
Intake lift with your rocker selection
Ex lift with your rocker selection
Intake lift with the charts rockers
Ex lift with the charts rockers
Stud dia
Special notes on viable applications

Spring Data Bank:-
Part #
Spring type:- single, double, triple, beehive or conical
OD outer
ID outer
ID inner
Damper use – yes – no
Installed lbs
Installed height
Max open lbs
Valve open height min
Coil bind height
Max lift
Intake nose lbs at your valve lift
EX. nose lbs at your valve lift
Spring rate
Resonant Frequency
Retainer and keeper part #’s for all springs involved in data bank


In the same manner there are data banks for the following: -
Data bank for lifters
Data bank for pushrods
Data bank for intakes
Data bank for carbs including accurate sizing taking into account manifold types and spacer usage
Data bank for pistons
Data bank for cranks
Data bank for rods
Etc.

I am pretty sure that this is the most effective and comprehensive cam selection program on the face of the planet. For those complaining about the time it takes to go through catalogs for a catalog cam (inevitable the wrong choice is made) or go through the profile library of a particular cam company/s is that maybe you should have read/absorbed what I have previously had to say on the subject of cam selection.

Using TorqueMaster I speced and selected a cam for a 383 SBC from close to 2000 options in 95 seconds!!!!

How well do these selections work – apparently better than 99% of those done by most competent pro’s.

Here is a little story that demonstrates how effective the program is and how often those reading magazine stories jump to the wrong conclusions.

How many of you remember the very popular PHR story about hopping up a 350 roller cammed motor on a tight budget?

It was called ‘The Sledge Hammer’. This was about 2005 maybe 2006. Editor Johnny Hunkins called me for a cam spec for this motor. It had to have good vacuum, and make more than 400 lbs-ft and 400 hp on out of the box EQ iron heads and run pump gas.

Unbeknown to Johnny I gave the job of doing this to my late daughter, Jacki, who at this time was about 11 years old. Using an early form of TorqueMaster she came up with a cam in about 3 minutes.

This was the spec that went to Comp to grind for Johnny Hunkins.

The dyno shop used was in the LA area and was frequented by many pro engine builders that used this dyno.

The motor was assembled by my good friend Steve Dulcich then Editor of Engine Masters magazine and now seen on I Road Kill Garage and Engine Masters TV with David Freiberger.

So Steve’s putting in the cam and one of our minor celebrity engine builders asks what the spec is. When Steve showed him the cam card, the specs went around the local engine builders like wildfire. A small group of the many that said the cam would not allow the motor to pass the 400 hp mark brought along cams to show me (actually 11 year old Jacki and the early TorqueMaster program) how it should be done. As a matter of interest out of about half a dozen pro engine builders the highest hp the Vizard generated spec cam would go to was 385 hp.

On the allotted dyno test day, as I remember it as told to me by Steve and Johnny Hunkins, three of our pro engine builders brought along cams to save the day for this magazine project with a cam that they perceived would generate the require numbers as they were certain the TorqueMaster cam would fail.

After a quick break in the Sledge Hammer build (or would it be a 2 once tack hammer build) was given full throttle.


First run resulted in a whole bunch of duck shooting, bangs and backfires. Now, is this the start of my excuses for not meeting the 400 hp target? Heck no!

In spite of all the misfires this 350 project motor cranked out 404 hp while running on just 7.1 cylinders.
This already showed those pro builders that their guess as to what cam was needed was off by a big margin. So what did this build produce with the miss fixed. (turned out to be the module in the HEI distributor) answer 447 lbs-ft and 445 hp. Not bad for a cam that in the opinion of some accredited expert engine builders was a complete miss specced deal. Now you may ask what was the output of the pro’s cams – don’t know – these cams quietly disappeared and that should answer one venomous statement that for this test to demonstrated anything of value i should have let the other guys have their cams tested. do ypu think we could get them to hand over their cams for testing. Not a chance!
If any of you have the audacity to ask Steve or Johnny they will tell you I was adamant about the fact that my TorqueMaster cam would make the target and then some plus beat all the other cams. Why so certain – still have never lost a cam shootout yet and I been in hundreds!

Take a look at the 87 octane pump gas builds that Terry Walters and I have done and posted the Torque and Power curves for. Those torque figures which hover around the 1.4 lbs-ft per cube mark are not the result of favorable accidents of fate but sound engineering! Nor are they engines that have had multiple cams and other parts flogged through them.

THEY ARE BUILDS THAT ARE STRAIGHT OFF THE TORQUEMASTER PROGRAM THAT ANY COMPETENT ENGINE ASSEMBLER/BUILDER CAN REPLICATE!

In other-words they are builds that can be done by a smart 11 old girl. Remember armed with TorqueMaster she created a cam spec that out powered pro engine builders with years of hands on experience. That's a little like many of you posting here. (that might damage a few ego’s but do you want to be a more successful builder or protect an ego?)

So how many of you are thinking that you are not going to spend money on a program you think has been written by a journalist. I don’t know how many times I have to say this but I am not a journalist. My field of expertise is in aerospace technology. When working for what is now GE I was paid to invent stuff. I have over 40 patents with my name on them. If any of my big critics can rival that just let me know.

As far as the cost of the most powerful cam program on the face of the planet goes as I have stated several time the cost to ST posters is $0.00 a copy.

With what I have put out in this rather lengthy post there seems little point in further debating Jon’s original post.

Using TorqueMaster every cam is both a custom and a catalog cam at the same time.

And speaking of Jon I remember just how quick he was to find fault with the 128 cam selection deal. I could hardly believe a guy who many regarded as smart came up with the comments seen - all of which were firstly negative in context and secondly grossly misleading/inaccurate. (if you disagree with that Jon I will be around to discuss it face to face at PRI). I will make a bet now that I don’t get a positive comment on TorqueMaster from Jon – I think Mr. 1D simulation will either choke first or change the subject so it looks like he is responding!!!


One more thing regarding cam selection here. Both at my planned 3 hour REC and the 3 hour PRI seminar I am going to tear apart the thinking behind those who say the LCA is a result not an input. No theories here – just math and algebra.

I am eagerly waiting the responses here!

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Re: TorqueMaster cam program update

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Well Jon once said to Mike Jones his methods were "too simple" as well. Mike replied, if it is too simple it has been that way for 30 years!
Jon was added to my block list. :)
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I'm interested in seeing your update that allows for different seat angles. At the moment, a couple of us are using Rick360's Window Area Calculator and choking down the valve size using a 45* x .040" seat with a 36* x .89" top cut until it has the same window area at .100 lift as a 2.055 valve with a 50* x .040" seat and a 42* x .089" topcut (well, that's what I'm using anyways) and entering that valve diameter into TorqueMaster.

That only seems to tighten up the LSA by one point but it drives 20+ degrees of duration into the output because the program thinks you're actually using a 1.89 intake valve. I guess you'll be able to calculate the poor CD at low lift to ever-increasing CD at higher lifts, yes? Assuming I've got that part right...
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x2 what RevTheory said.

My interests are SBC, BBC and Pontiac V8. The Chevy community is so vast there are plenty of great examples out there to draw from. So many among the Pontiac V8 crowd are totally paralyzed to 112 LSA. Different engine size, different CFM, different compression or power band - it's just 112 LSA.
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RevTheory wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:05 am I'm interested in seeing your update that allows for different seat angles. At the moment, a couple of us are using Rick360's Window Area Calculator and choking down the valve size using a 45* x .040" seat with a 36* x .89" top cut until it has the same window area at .100 lift as a 2.055 valve with a 50* x .040" seat and a 42* x .089" topcut (well, that's what I'm using anyways) and entering that valve diameter into TorqueMaster.

That only seems to tighten up the LSA by one point but it drives 20+ degrees of duration into the output because the program thinks you're actually using a 1.89 intake valve. I guess you'll be able to calculate the poor CD at low lift to ever-increasing CD at higher lifts, yes? Assuming I've got that part right...
Ref the bold big print!

Yes - so am I!!
The way you are doing this will not give the right answer because there is no allowance for bore shrouding and a couple of other issues that just don't spring to mind at the moment.
I know how it will be done but my little medical issue has really put me behind. Since agreeing to do that 3 hour PRI seminar my priorities have got slightly skewed!

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Re: TorqueMaster cam program update

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Oh, we certainly weren't speccing any cams doing it that way; we were just trying to find any sort of commonalities or something to go on. Mostly curious, inquisitive and bored, lol.
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Re: Custom vs Catalog Cams

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David Vizard wrote:
...

"[b][i][u]How many of you remember the very popular PHR story about hopping
up a 350 roller cammed motor on a tight budget? [/u][/i][/b]
>
> It was called ‘The Sledge Hammer’. This was about 2005 maybe 2006. Editor
> Johnny Hunkins called me for a cam spec for this motor. It had to have
> good vacuum, and make more than 400 lbs-ft and 400 hp on out of the box EQ
> iron heads and run pump gas.
>
> Unbeknown to Johnny I gave the job of doing this to my late daughter,
> Jacki, who at this time was about 11 years old. Using an early form of
> TorqueMaster she came up with a cam in about 3 minutes.
>
> This was the spec that went to Comp to grind for Johnny Hunkins.
>
> The dyno shop used was in the LA area and was frequented by many pro engine
> builders that used this dyno.
>
> The motor was assembled by my good friend Steve Dulcich then Editor of
> Engine Masters magazine and now seen on I Road Kill Garage and Engine
> Masters TV with David Freiberger.
>
> So Steve’s putting in the cam and one of our minor celebrity engine
> builders asks what the spec is. When Steve showed him the cam card, the
> specs went around the local engine builders like wildfire. A small group of
> the many that said the cam would not allow the motor to pass the 400 hp
> mark brought along cams to show me (actually 11 year old Jacki and the
> early TorqueMaster program) how it should be done. As a matter of interest
> out of about half a dozen pro engine builders the highest hp the Vizard
> generated spec cam would go to was 385 hp.
>
> On the allotted dyno test day, as I remember it as told to me by Steve and
> Johnny Hunkins, three of our pro engine builders brought along cams to save
> the day for this magazine project with a cam that they perceived would
> generate the require numbers as they were certain the TorqueMaster cam
> would fail.
>
> After a quick break in the Sledge Hammer build (or would it be a 2 once
> tack hammer build) was given full throttle.
>
>
> First run resulted in a whole bunch of duck shooting, bangs and backfires.
> Now, is this the start of my excuses for not meeting the 400 hp target?
> Heck no!
>
> In spite of all the misfires this 350 project motor cranked out 404 hp
> while running on just 7.1 cylinders.
> This already showed those pro builders that their guess as to what cam was
> needed was off by a big margin. So what did this build produce with the
> miss fixed. (turned out to be the module in the HEI distributor) answer
> 447 lbs-ft and 445 hp. Not bad for a cam that in the opinion of some
> accredited expert engine builders was a complete miss specced deal.
> [b][i][u]Now you may ask what was the output of the pro’s cams – don’t know
> – these cams quietly disappeared [/u][/i][/b]and that should answer one
> venomous statement that for this test to demonstrated anything of value i
> should have let the other guys have their cams tested. do ypu think we
> could get them to hand over their cams for testing. Not a chance!
> If any of you have the audacity to ask Steve or Johnny they will tell you I
> was adamant about the fact that my TorqueMaster cam would make the target
> and then some plus beat all the other cams. Why so certain – still have
> never lost a cam shootout yet and I been in hundreds! ... "

Link to the article on the Sledge Hammer:
https://web.archive.org/web/20120817053 ... ine_build/
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For some people like me pictures work better than works. :) Attached is the start of the TMC User's Manual.

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Kevin Johnson wrote:
> David Vizard wrote:
> ...
>
> "[b][i][u]How many of you remember the very popular PHR story about hopping
> up a 350 roller cammed motor on a tight budget? [/u][/i][/b]
> >
> > It was called ‘The Sledge Hammer’. This was about 2005 maybe 2006. Editor
> > Johnny Hunkins called me for a cam spec for this motor. It had to have
> > good vacuum, and make more than 400 lbs-ft and 400 hp on out of the box EQ
> > iron heads and run pump gas.
> >
> > Unbeknown to Johnny I gave the job of doing this to my late daughter,
> > Jacki, who at this time was about 11 years old. Using an early form of
> > TorqueMaster she came up with a cam in about 3 minutes.
> >
> > This was the spec that went to Comp to grind for Johnny Hunkins.
> >
> > The dyno shop used was in the LA area and was frequented by many pro engine
> > builders that used this dyno.
> >
> > The motor was assembled by my good friend Steve Dulcich then Editor of
> > Engine Masters magazine and now seen on I Road Kill Garage and Engine
> > Masters TV with David Freiberger.
> >
> > So Steve’s putting in the cam and one of our minor celebrity engine
> > builders asks what the spec is. When Steve showed him the cam card, the
> > specs went around the local engine builders like wildfire. A small group of
> > the many that said the cam would not allow the motor to pass the 400 hp
> > mark brought along cams to show me (actually 11 year old Jacki and the
> > early TorqueMaster program) how it should be done. As a matter of interest
> > out of about half a dozen pro engine builders the highest hp the Vizard
> > generated spec cam would go to was 385 hp.
> >
> > On the allotted dyno test day, as I remember it as told to me by Steve and
> > Johnny Hunkins, three of our pro engine builders brought along cams to save
> > the day for this magazine project with a cam that they perceived would
> > generate the require numbers as they were certain the TorqueMaster cam
> > would fail.
> >
> > After a quick break in the Sledge Hammer build (or would it be a 2 once
> > tack hammer build) was given full throttle.
> >
> >
> > First run resulted in a whole bunch of duck shooting, bangs and backfires.
> > Now, is this the start of my excuses for not meeting the 400 hp target?
> > Heck no!
> >
> > In spite of all the misfires this 350 project motor cranked out 404 hp
> > while running on just 7.1 cylinders.
> > This already showed those pro builders that their guess as to what cam was
> > needed was off by a big margin. So what did this build produce with the
> > miss fixed. (turned out to be the module in the HEI distributor) answer
> > 447 lbs-ft and 445 hp. Not bad for a cam that in the opinion of some
> > accredited expert engine builders was a complete miss specced deal.
> > [b][i][u]Now you may ask what was the output of the pro’s cams – don’t know
> > – these cams quietly disappeared [/u][/i][/b]and that should answer one
> > venomous statement that for this test to demonstrated anything of value i
> > should have let the other guys have their cams tested. do ypu think we
> > could get them to hand over their cams for testing. Not a chance!
> > If any of you have the audacity to ask Steve or Johnny they will tell you I
> > was adamant about the fact that my TorqueMaster cam would make the target
> > and then some plus beat all the other cams. Why so certain – still have
> > never lost a cam shootout yet and I been in hundreds! ... "
>
> Link to the article on the Sledge Hammer:
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20120817053 ... ine_build/

Isn't that the one that DV said was 20 hp/ft lbs high, Speedomaotive dyno?
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David Vizard wrote:
> [quote=RevTheory post_id=823491 time=1566396340 user_id=24505]
> [size=150][b][i][u]I'm interested in seeing your update that allows for
> different seat angles.[/u][/i][/b][/size] At the moment, a couple of us
> are using Rick360's Window Area Calculator and choking down the valve size
> using a 45* x .040" seat with a 36* x .89" top cut until it has
> the same window area at .100 lift as a 2.055 valve with a 50* x .040"
> seat and a 42* x .089" topcut (well, that's what I'm using anyways)
> and entering that valve diameter into TorqueMaster.
>
> That only seems to tighten up the LSA by one point but it drives 20+
> degrees of duration into the output because the program thinks you're
> actually using a 1.89 intake valve. I guess you'll be able to calculate
> the poor CD at low lift to ever-increasing CD at higher lifts, yes?
> Assuming I've got that part right...
> [/quote]
>
> Ref the bold big print!
>
> Yes - so am I!!
> The way you are doing this will not give the right answer because there is
> no allowance for bore shrouding and a couple of other issues that just
> don't spring to mind at the moment.
> I know how it will be done but my little medical issue has really put me
> behind. Since agreeing to do that 3 hour PRI seminar my priorities have got
> slightly skewed!
>
> DV

REV... I have found that reducing the valve size by .200 using 128 as well as cam master gives you the lsa that the creasons have used on their above average engines and imputing their flow numbers seems to show a much higher DC then a 45 seat there for allowing less duration for the same rpm.
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> If you are an enthusiast engine builder then you can get a copy of this
> program with a 14-day life FREE which should give even those with big
> decision making problems enough time to sort out a highly functional
> build spec. If you are pro engine builder and will be ordering cams and
> parts on an engine building shop scale then the free time will run 180
> days. In the next week or so Marvin will be posting a link on this thread.
> Click on that and download your free copy.

Just wondering if this is still happening ???
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sneem26 wrote:

> Just wondering if this is still happening ???

I hope so as well, I think David is busy preparing for a seminar at raceenginechallenge.com
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Someone, that would be me, has been dragging their feet. I have just sent off to David and Marvin for them to checkout what hopefully is a complete install package for the 14 Day trail and all of the other files that are needed.

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This is the install package for the 14 Day version of TMC. It is in a zipped file that requires a password to Unzip. Please PM me to get the password. If it turns out to matter it was zipped with 7zFM.

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A few people have reported get this error." Run-time error "429": ActiveX component can't create object" error.

Please download and try this version if you get that error and let me know if it fixes things. Please note that anyone downloading the program for the first time should download the above version first.

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