D V Live now.

[skinny z]

D.V. did the combination,

As in the cam spec as well?

Yes, he used his torquemaster program.

Go figure. That's an interesting program for sure but mentioning it here tends to have a thread end badly.
Since we're on the subject DV, how did that entry fare as far as being competitive?

[Bigchief632]

As in the cam spec as well?

Yes, he used his torquemaster program.

Go figure. That's an interesting program for sure but mentioning it here tends to have a thread end badly.
Since we're on the subject DV, how did that entry fare as far as being competitive?

2nd to last. But the last place guy dnf'd but made more power.

[skinny z]

Yes, he used his torquemaster program.

Go figure. That's an interesting program for sure but mentioning it here tends to have a thread end badly.
Since we're on the subject DV, how did that entry fare as far as being competitive?

2nd to last. But the last place guy dnf'd but made more power.

Ouch.

[Warp Speed]

Go figure. That's an interesting program for sure but mentioning it here tends to have a thread end badly.
Since we're on the subject DV, how did that entry fare as far as being competitive?

2nd to last. But the last place guy dnf'd but made more power.

Ouch.

[bob460]

So his Cam design's work real well to come 2nd last.......

[HQM383]

So his Cam design's work real well to come 2nd last.......

Cognitive dissonance and pride will not let that be a contributing factor though.

[skinny z]

So his Cam design's work real well to come 2nd last.......

Wouldn't you think there's more to it than that?
Lots of work on the intake as shown but out of the box heads? CNC'd or otherwise from Dart, you'd think someone would get in there and massage them a little.
Something doesn't seem right.
It'd be interesting to know the cam spec's and follow the Torque Master program to see how it how it played out.

[skinny z]

Cognitive dissonance and pride will not let that be a contributing factor though.

True enough. And there does seem to be an element of both in recent videos and posts.
But it's hard to argue the guys experience.

[Tom68]

I know nothing about the EMC events but even 2nd last is only bad if you're way off first place.

[skinny z]

I know nothing about the EMC events but even 2nd last is only bad if you're way off first place.

Couldn't find an entry list or results for the 5 years years the Race Engine Challenge has been running (since 2018 as far as I could tell). Not to be confused with the Engine Masters Challenge (EMC). Plenty of web hits but nothing specific in the list department that I could find.

[skinny z]

As a side note in general, and they say we don't race dynos. Damn right we do and it's great racing IMO.

[skinny z]

2nd to last. But the last place guy dnf'd but made more power.

Please cite your sources Bigchief. I could find little about the results since it's inception in 2018 (but that may be wrong as well). I found plenty of video and description but lacking in the entry list and results department.
You look to have an inside track on that so that's why I'm asking.
Thanks.

[HQM383]

Cognitive dissonance and pride will not let that be a contributing factor though.

True enough. And there does seem to be an element of both in recent videos and posts.
But it's hard to argue the guys experience.

DV is one where I have a foot in both camps to a degree. I have respect for him and what he has done over the years to contribute to Motorsport and certainly to providing a wealth of knowledge to guys like you and I over the years through his publications but he has to acknowledge he is not the only one that has the years of experience he does and has done what he has over the years and therefore there’s a chance others research, testing and conclusions may be just as, if not more valid than his.

[skinny z]

Cognitive dissonance and pride will not let that be a contributing factor though.

True enough. And there does seem to be an element of both in recent videos and posts.
But it's hard to argue the guys experience.

DV is one where I have a foot in both camps to a degree. I have respect for him and what he has done over the years to contribute to Motorsport and certainly to providing a wealth of knowledge to guys like you and I over the years through his publications but he has to acknowledge he is not the only one that has the years of experience he does and has done what he has over the years and therefore there’s a chance others research, testing and conclusions may be just as, if not more valid than his.

I couldn't agree more.
My bias is that SBC's are my interest and it's a core of his program development and content. There's a lot there for sure but I'll still look for more input.
That said, his Torque Master suggestions for what's next for me are intriguing but they're certainly not exclusive.
I'll have to shop and compare.

[bob460]

So his Cam design's work real well to come 2nd last.......

Wouldn't you think there's more to it than that?
Lots of work on the intake as shown but out of the box heads? CNC'd or otherwise from Dart, you'd think someone would get in there and massage them a little.
Something doesn't seem right.
It'd be interesting to know the cam spec's and follow the Torque Master program to see how it how it played out.

Sure their is, BUT once you enter a engine building contest, don't you think you would build it to the BEST of your abilities for the given rule's! Not just enter for the sake of it...............money and EGO'S are up for the taking....lol.

But in the last 10 years his health and other problem's have not gone his way, the technology in the last 10 years has changed also, and i don't think he has done the testing like he did 20-30 years ago. It just come's across as he is the only one that can spec a cam, and his way is the right way.