How about a "Vintage Engine" tech forum

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CamKing wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:33 pm
frnkeore wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:56 pm I would be on board with a vintage tech section but, what would be the perimeters to it? A certain cut off year?
No cut off year.
Just use your judgement.
Anything that can no longer compete in racing, unless it's in a Nostalgia or Vintage class.
Any technology or product that is no longer used in racing or performance.
So my Porsche 928s of all years would have been in the vintage category for many years now? Never really used for competition, usually not competitive in any series if used, almost nobody develops new performance parts for them, production stopped in 1995, many spare parts now NLA from Porsche, cars look cool and were instant classics, in stock form though they lose to a brand new Honda Civic off the traffic light. So vintage?

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I think being nitpicky now is just being pedantic.

I say Mike adds it, people post in it, Mike polices it how he sees fit (it's his site now), and that will set the tone for it.
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hoffman900 wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:29 pm I think being nitpicky now is just being pedantic.

I say Mike adds it, people post in it, Mike polices it how he sees fit (it's his site now), and that will set the tone for it.
I’d want to add a description of what vintage is when many carbureted OHV gasoline engines are not considered vintage. Perhaps “more cool than fast” might be a suitable definition for vintage?
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ptuomov wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:33 pm
hoffman900 wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:29 pm I think being nitpicky now is just being pedantic.

I say Mike adds it, people post in it, Mike polices it how he sees fit (it's his site now), and that will set the tone for it.
I’d want to add a description of what vintage is when many carbureted OHV gasoline engines are not considered vintage. Perhaps “more cool than fast” might be a suitable definition for vintage?
A Porsche 928 engine is vintage. I can't think of a single venue it is competitive in except vintage racing.

A blank sheet carburetor design from ten years ago (Say the Ford RY45) that is still winning professional races is modern.
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“A Porsche 928 engine is vintage. I can't think of a single venue it is competitive in except vintage racing.”

928 — It’s not even competitive in vintage racing. If only 928s would line up, I bet they’d all DNF.
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As a guy who has a fake '57 270hp 283, a 324 Olds rocket with an edelbrock OL496, an Isky E3 and Thomas mag rockers :shock: and a desoto hemi, Count me in.
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I'd be happier with a "Street" vs. "Competition" division, rather than "Vintage" vs. "Non-Vintage" (If "vintage" is determined by whether or not it's "competitive").

But I'm happiest with NO division beyond what's already here. I'll let the threat titles speak for themselves; if I'm interested, I'll click on them. I've learned a lot of stuff from many threads, I'd hate for the forum to get so complex that I miss stuff I might find useful.
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hoffman900 wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:29 pm I think being nitpicky now is just being pedantic.
No kidding. This isn't Rocket Surgery.

You start a thread in the furum you think it fits best.
If it's in the wrong place, people will report it, and it will get moved to the right place.
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As a technical/organizational point, I would be in favor of relatively few subforums but then having the topics/threads and posts tagged with codes that allow one to select or search for desired content. This way, a post can be about #vintage #competition with #fuelinjected #Porsche928 that will however #DNF without belonging to any granular subforum in a hierarchical system.
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Probably going to call it Vintage/Classic/Historical" tech
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I say go for it.
One more spot to read :D


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I am new around here however I am vintage, I say do it. This place is great and as said above gives me more to read and enjoy.

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CamKing wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:41 am
Dave Koehler wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:26 am
ptuomov wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:31 am Isn’t the whole site about obsolete vintage technologies?

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I tend to agree.
It would be redundant.
Vintage is in the eye of the beholder....or a craiglist seller. :lol:
Obsolete is in the mind of the manufacturer.
If an engine can not be competitive in an open racing class, and can only find a home in "Nostalgia Racing" classes, it's vintage.
The 350 Chevy has not be manufactured for decades, but it's still in over half the circle track race cars in the US. It's far from obsolete, and aftermarket manufacturers are still advancing that engine platform.
I think everyone can see the difference between a Ford Flathead in an old T-Bucket, and a 410" SBC Sprint Car engine.

Same for technologies. Duntov cams, and Joe Hunt Magnetos had their place, but they can't compete wit h current technology.
Who under the age of 50, has even seen a Duntov cam, or Joe Hunt magneto ?
If Sandy or some other person hasn't scrapped my old junk301 block, it should still have an old -097 cam in it.

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Back again!

Say, an old 4-banger sheet-metal Crosley Hot-Shot SOHC engine as well as my old Willys 6-banger that had the intake valve in the head and the exhaust valve in the block....

Packard straight-8's and Hudson Hornet 6-bangerss!!

Dad loved his Packard's and he ran the old straight-8's at like 110 mph way back in the early 50's!! The big Packard cars were like Cadillac's back then....

Back before IL had a speed limit on their crude roads..

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pdq67 wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:03 pm Back again!

as well as my old Willys 6-banger that had the intake valve in the head and the exhaust valve in the block....

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I'm afraid the it was the 4 cylinder, "F" head, Willys that had the intake in the head, the 6's where flat head. I had one of each. '58, FC 150 (cab over PU, F head 4 cyl) and '56 Willys station wagon.
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