Whats Your Definition of a Engine Builder

[swatson454]

How about a guy that knows how to spec a cam to do what he wants it to do that works with all of the given parameters vs. selecting a "3/4 race cam" or a "medium torque cam" or even "two cams down from an rv cam" from somewhere towards the bottom of the page

[novadude]

Someone who can degree in a cam.

Geez... that's pretty generous. I'm a backyard assembler at best, and I only work on my own junk. Even I've degreed 4 or 5 cams over the past 20 years.

[raynorshine]

How about a guy that knows how to spec a cam to do what he wants it to do that works with all of the given parameters vs. selecting a "3/4 race cam" or a "medium torque cam" or even "two cams down from an rv cam" from somewhere towards the bottom of the page

you forgot the "smooth idle full race" cam? when in doubt, just go to the bottom of the page

[900HP]

How about: knowing when, where, and how to spend a customer's money to get the most effective package at a reasonable cost that meets or exceeds expectations reliably?

[swatson454]

How about a guy that knows how to spec a cam to do what he wants it to do that works with all of the given parameters vs. selecting a "3/4 race cam" or a "medium torque cam" or even "two cams down from an rv cam" from somewhere towards the bottom of the page

you forgot the "smooth idle full race" cam? when in doubt, just go to the bottom of the page

Indeed I did. Good one

[DrillDawg]

I often wondered what many consider the definition is of a engine builder??

Jon Kasse

DD

[900HP]

I often wondered what many consider the definition is of a engine builder??

Jon Kasse

DD

That's kind of like saying the definition of a race car driver is "Jimmie Johnson" or the definition of a pilot is "Neil Armstrong" or the .................. well, you get my point. He kind of sets the standard up there a ways. a looonnnnnng ways.

[DrillDawg]

I often wondered what many consider the definition is of a engine builder??

Jon Kasse

DD

That's kind of like saying the definition of a race car driver is "Jimmie Johnson" or the definition of a pilot is "Neil Armstrong" or the .................. well, you get my point. He kind of sets the standard up there a ways. a looonnnnnng ways.

Your right and you got my point. There are a lot of builders right up there with him but a lot of people who think they are builders are not .

By the way I know I am not one.

DD

[CamKing]

Someone who can degree in a cam.

Geez... that's pretty generous. I'm a backyard assembler at best, and I only work on my own junk. Even I've degreed 4 or 5 cams over the past 20 years.

You'd be suprised how many people who call themselves engine builders, think you just need to line up the dots.
I get calls from them all the time.

[bbc]

(don't mix up clutter or alot of work laying around with dirty)

Ha Ha...Perfect!

[bbc]

You'd be suprised how many people who call themselves engine builders, think you just need to line up the dots.

Dots, what dots??

[Lem Evans]

I.M.O. a guy that delivers an engine that has great results.

[mike walsh]

Not the guy that says, "Gonna screw me sum motors tagather taday." I quit working for him, he sucked, cursed my mother, and lost the only decent employee he had, and he learned all he knew from an old Smokey book, Speed secrets.
Best engine builder i ever knew personally has retired, he was a relic, propeller head from the 50s, he was so clean and organized, used white drop cloths and laid every part out, anyway you get the idea.

[trmnatr]

Some one who designs ,machines and assemble the engine.

X2 and guys who have to farm everything and do no machine work or buys everything out a box I would call an engine assembler.

There is surly a differance between the two.

This should be a good debate!!!

GM's engine builders don't machine everything.

Saying if they have someone do the machine work would be just like saying, IF YOU SEND HEADS OUT TO GET PORTED your not an engine builder, and most engine builder do send heads out to get ported. Also shops I know that do it all (except head porting) have a dedicated engine builder in house and dedicated machinist who does ALL THE MACHINE WORK

IMO an engine builder is one who does assemble the engine and makes mods to the parts being used, adjusts clearances from factory and can use aftermarket or any part to make the engine a winner

An assembler IMO are like dealer guys who only use GM and dont check clearances and usually an engine builder corrects the problem when there is one.

Someone such as yourself IMO is the engine builder and machinist.

[trmnatr]

Someone who can degree in a cam.

Geez... that's pretty generous. I'm a backyard assembler at best, and I only work on my own junk. Even I've degreed 4 or 5 cams over the past 20 years.

You'd be suprised how many people who call themselves engine builders, think you just need to line up the dots.
I get calls from them all the time.

What if the dots are off

I asked a "builder" how he degree's the cam with no degree wheel. He puts the balancer on and makes sure it lines up to 0 and removes it to see if its dot to dot