Who owns there own dingle honner?
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Re: Who owns there own dingle honner?
They de-glaze the cylinder ... they don't "hone" but a couple tenths.econo racer wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:13 pm Which one works best for backyard mechanic. maybe loaners
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Re: Who owns there own dingle honner?
I just bought the flex hone brush for my sbc thru summit. I had a couple summers on the setup and tore down to do heads and cam change, and did new rings for more gap and new bearings. Used the hone brush in a drill and went up and down fairly fast and tried to be as consistent as possible.
Seemed to work fine. Car made near 1400 hp at 30 psi and didnt have blowby issues
Seemed to work fine. Car made near 1400 hp at 30 psi and didnt have blowby issues
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A year and 6 days ago you asked about dingle berry hones. check below
How is that project coming along?
How is that project coming along?
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Re: Who owns there own dingle honner?
I was going to ask the same thing.
Some guys here have several sizes they use for different finishing requirements.
I have about 7-8 of them different grit's and diameter's for different engines.
If you are looking for a ball type hone for basic re-ring jobs there is maybe a 280 grit that will be fine for basic cheapo cast type rings.
Check out Brush Research Co. and see what they have available. its a tool just like anything else its not used every day but handy when you need to use it.
As mentioned they can be found on E Bay and other places or just get over it and buy a new one that way it will last you for life at this point. If you take a block to a shop to deglaze the holes one time thats the cost of a ball hone.
Some guys here have several sizes they use for different finishing requirements.
I have about 7-8 of them different grit's and diameter's for different engines.
If you are looking for a ball type hone for basic re-ring jobs there is maybe a 280 grit that will be fine for basic cheapo cast type rings.
Check out Brush Research Co. and see what they have available. its a tool just like anything else its not used every day but handy when you need to use it.
As mentioned they can be found on E Bay and other places or just get over it and buy a new one that way it will last you for life at this point. If you take a block to a shop to deglaze the holes one time thats the cost of a ball hone.
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Re: Who owns there own dingle honner?
Many backyard mechanics have used their hand with emery/wetordry/garnet/whatever cloth/paper successfully & lived to tell about it.
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i have a few i run every cast block when they come back from boring
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You are going to have to explain your reasoning.
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Re: Who owns there own dingle honner?
I have my own SJ-210 Mitutoyo profilometer, and I can tell you with certainty that bead hones can produce amazing results for rk, rvk, rpk, and overall ra.
You need to start with deep oil grooves (rvk) and a surface that isn't loaded with torn, folded metal. This is why a lot of better shops will finish bore walls with vitrified abrasives instead of diamond tooling.
On material like Durabar (Darton-type sleeves) or "Truck Iron" variants like the aftermarket iron blocks have, you need to use a silicon carbide bead hone. I get ~8-10 ra, ~8-10 rpk, ~16-22 rk, and ~28-36 rvk with a 400-grit silicon carbide bead hone on stronger iron. 10 strokes clockwise, 10 strokes counterclockwise, and most of the time Gojo hand cleaner.
On that, you have to work fast because the hand cleaner has water in it and the bores will rust if you don't keep moving.
You need to start with deep oil grooves (rvk) and a surface that isn't loaded with torn, folded metal. This is why a lot of better shops will finish bore walls with vitrified abrasives instead of diamond tooling.
On material like Durabar (Darton-type sleeves) or "Truck Iron" variants like the aftermarket iron blocks have, you need to use a silicon carbide bead hone. I get ~8-10 ra, ~8-10 rpk, ~16-22 rk, and ~28-36 rvk with a 400-grit silicon carbide bead hone on stronger iron. 10 strokes clockwise, 10 strokes counterclockwise, and most of the time Gojo hand cleaner.
On that, you have to work fast because the hand cleaner has water in it and the bores will rust if you don't keep moving.
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That was not my concern about Gunt's process. What you described is the hot ticket.
His reads like it comes to him bored but not honed.
I know that doesn't work because I witnessed a competitor try to pull that off. Cast iron rings could not even save it.
It was fun to witness from a distance.
They eventually gave up the fight and had me finish hone them on the Sunnen.
That was not my concern about Gunt's process. What you described is the hot ticket.
His reads like it comes to him bored but not honed.
I know that doesn't work because I witnessed a competitor try to pull that off. Cast iron rings could not even save it.
It was fun to witness from a distance.
They eventually gave up the fight and had me finish hone them on the Sunnen.
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Re: Who owns there own dingle honner?
Hi Dave.Dave Koehler wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:56 pm RW
That was not my concern about Gunt's process. What you described is the hot ticket.
His reads like it comes to him bored but not honed.
I know that doesn't work because I witnessed a competitor try to pull that off. Cast iron rings could not even save it.
It was fun to witness from a distance.
They eventually gave up the fight and had me finish hone them on the Sunnen.
I actually didn't see his post until you mentioned it........Along the lines of the local low-income district shops that used to bore within .002" then DRY hone with 180 grit in a hand-operated, drill driven deal and cast iron rings 100% of the time.
Not good unless you're trying to broom a used car or get a few more miles out of a junker.
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Re: Who owns there own dingle honner?
I’ve got a Brush Research 4 1/8”, Silicone Carbide, I think 240 grit, maybe 180 still in the box; I did 3 passes in each cylinder on my SBC and I have no use for it.econo racer wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:13 pm Which one works best for backyard mechanic. maybe loaners
$27.60 half price of new + you pay shipping.
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Re: Who owns there own dingle honner?
BORED AND HONED ,
But not as any of you guy would let things out , i see and have read several items where yee generally bore to x and hone out to finish size , well here its bored to with in a half thou of finish and gets a quick hone , i have to send blocks to the uk to get what i want done , but there are loads who do it too over there , although , 1 very old machinist who only bores the blocks for the last 40yrs and still only uses T's , i have never being able to find any issue with his work on cast blocks
But not as any of you guy would let things out , i see and have read several items where yee generally bore to x and hone out to finish size , well here its bored to with in a half thou of finish and gets a quick hone , i have to send blocks to the uk to get what i want done , but there are loads who do it too over there , although , 1 very old machinist who only bores the blocks for the last 40yrs and still only uses T's , i have never being able to find any issue with his work on cast blocks
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Re: Who owns there own dingle honner?
It would seem that a ball hone would work on a block previously honed with a torque plate when one wasn't available. Just thinking , don't shoot me if you know better.
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Dave I went ahead and just used the 3 stone ones. Came out OK.