GRTfast wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:17 pm
pdq67 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:43 pm
I disagree!
I come here to get the real news and not the crap that the ones controlling the MSM want to stick up my as*!!
I try NOT to diss. anybody as well as to contribute to all of the tech sections.
I hope that I do contribute to all of them because of no more than my AGE!! I am now an old man and have done a lot of stuff and I try to share it with the pups!!
Now all this said, I will call BS, --, BS, -- , when I read it!! So hopefully I am not one of the ones causing trouble here??
IF I am, then please just tell me!!
pdq67
I don't think "one" person is to blame. This is pretty much how every politics/religion unmoderated or lightly moderated forum goes. The main problem is (and I am probably as guilty as anyone),
no one is going in there with an open objective intent to learn and discuss ideas on their individual merit. Every topic almost always devolves into two diametrically opposed sides mudslinging at each other. Try as I might, I still got dragged into that kind of thing more than once. Forum sections like that generally attract those with fringe views, so there is almost a baked in insurmountable chasm between those with differing political and religious view. My main reason for participating there was to test and hone my logic and argument skills, even though I knew going in that almost no one would ever concede a point. That didn't matter much to me as I am generally able to judge who supported their position better.
All that said, it is Mike's forum, and the fact that he has specific instances where people chose not to sponsor the site because of that section is all the justification anyone should need for his decision, even though he owes an explanation to no one.
If someone is going to leave this forum because that section is closed, I'd surmise it is no big loss for anyone here.
Sorry to disagree (
in red above, so the bots can't spot it), but I did, not sure I was successful, and were i also disagree, I tried to not let any of my argumentative/debate/etc skills, etc decide an issue by others that really should IMO be weighed mainly on merits, not my presentation. I also was very uncomfortable getting down to others levels, but because there seem to many here, they only seem to score merits based on when fighting fire with fire, I would wade in, in my defense, only after someone else kept throwing rocks. I also observed, that most anger directed my way, was when someone was "cornered", and with anger, the first casualty is often logic and decorum. That was their shortcoming, not mine. I often asked for examples of others complaints, that seemed to anger them more, as they seldom if ever offered any, and just became more belligerent. I was never here to change anyone's mine, but I sure wasn't afraid to confront anyone trying change mine, ask repeatedly to make their case, beyond just their pronouncement of truth.
Do I mind the close of the political section, a little, but I sure didn't learn much, other then a there is evidently a unwritten running forum post count.
GRTfast, you were one of the top notch posters in the forum, and I suspect most of your posts just went over the heads of many. Not because they were too lofty, they just didn't conform to their views, It was seldom I discovered a weakness in your positions, and why I seldom found it necessary to contribute. Obviously I am in a minority on that issue.
Reading comprehension is not an appreciated art in this neck of the woods.
I suspect, any responses here of my reply, will support that view. We'll see.